Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Bomb Kills 3 at Tea Shop in Thailand Published: 5/10/06, 7:25 AM EDT BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) - A bomb exploded at a tea shop Wednesday near a busy market in violence-plagued southern Thailand, killing at least three people and injuring more than a dozen, police said. The bomb was attached to a parked motorcycle and triggered by a mobile phone when a military truck pulled up to the tea shop in the municipal township of Pattani, said police Col. Prasert Chansawang of Pattani province. Police believe soldiers were the target of the explosion, which occurred near an outdoor market that is popular with military stationed in the area, Prasert said. Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.>> <<i> please see the link below</i>> <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060510/ap_on_re_as/thailand_southern_violence_2" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200 60510/ap_on_re_as/thailand_southern_violence_2</a> Gotta love those peace loving Muslims.
Originally Posted By ecdc "Gotta love those peace loving Muslims." I've made blanket statements like this before, but I don't think they're fair. What I do think is fair, however, is criticism that Muslims seem to refuse to stand up against this kind of violence and speak out against their own, yet they're more than willing to throw a fit over some cartoons. It seems to be a religious culture that instills some very backwards priorities and beliefs.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy We could start a muslim the "religion of peace thread" everyday on here as they continue to kill innocent people in the name of Allah. Islam is a death cult that ruins evryplace it is set up.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd The situation in Thailand has nothing to do with the Middle East or the US. There is a history of discrimination against the Muslins in Thailand. They are treated like second class citizins, and are denied access in many places to decent health care and education. That is what these attacks are based on, not the war on terror. Even with the discrimination in this country, the vast majority of these people are peace-loving and attempt to live their lives relying on each other, instead of depending on the Thai government. Many live on the islands along the southern coast, completely isolated from the mainland. The recent attacks and protests are perpetrated by a small group of younger Muslins. Don't make a bunch of generalizations without knowing the facts first.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom My point is that is just another part of the world where the "pease loving religion of Islam" is blowing up stuff. sherrytodd enlighten me how being treated like a second class citizen justifies blowing up pregnant women? This has everything to do with what is going on in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world that the "peace loving religion of Islam" touches. They don't seem to play well together with others. Make that ALL other religions in the world.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd Tom Tom Tom, I have never said that being treated like a second class citizen gives you the right to blow up pregnant women, but it is going to cause strife within a population of people who are being repressed. It doesn't matter what your religion is, if you lived in a country which stated that because you are a Christian the government is going to withhold basic needs because we believe that your beliefs are wrong, eventually a portion of your population will rebel and a smaller percentage will resort to violence. That small percentage does not represents the beliefs of the whole. Yes, the larger population of Muslims in Thailand have spoken out against the violence in their country, but that doesn't make the news, does it.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder This whole generalizing about Muslims as a group because they have a comparatively small violent and radical sect is just so much blather. Let's generalize about all white guys because of the KKK, or David Koresh or even Manson, Ted Kaczynski, James Earl Ray, etc etc. This penchant for labeling others in this way is just as bad for society as the behaviors being alleged.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I just did some research on Thailand. Its government is a Constitutional Monarchy. <<Ethnic groups: Thai 75%, Chinese 14%, other 11% Religions: Buddhism 95%, Muslim 3.8%, Christianity 0.5%, Hinduism 0.1%, other 0.6% (1991) Languages: Thai, English (secondary language of the elite), ethnic and regional dialects .>> What you want to keep in mind is that terrorism is a tool used by desperate individuals who 1) are out manned, 2) out voted in a Democracy and 3) out gunned. Perhaps the Muslims are being treated like "second class citizens". I don't know. What I do know is that Democracys have measures built into them where all groups of people have an opportunity to be heard. Note: there are only two Democracys in the middle east; Afganistan and Iraq. I really must be missing something as I really don't understand how blowing up pregnant women helps a Human Rights cause.
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Originally Posted By CrouchingTigger >>Note: there are only two Democracys in the middle east; Afganistan and Iraq. << You forgot Israel.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd Just because a country is called a Democracy, doesn't mean there is not discrimination. How long have we been a Democracy? Gee, never been any discrimination here. The regions which are predonimately Thai Muslim receives a much smaller share of public funds then similar Buddhist areas. They are subject to assimilation programs which do not take into account their cultural differences (think what we did to the Native Americans). They receive substandard healthcare and education. There is a major difference between the Thai Democracy and the US Democracy. Thailand has an official, state sanctioned religion which is Buddhism. This has created a policy which is exclusionary to the minority religions. Once again, blowing up pregnant women is never right. I have never condoned this. But, neither is lumping in the majority of a population with a small radical sect, and using this to ignore the fact that these people are being treated unjustly.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<dude you are nute,>> Please don't call me nuts. <<there are kooks from every religion, RELIGION is the problem, not an indivdual piece of it.>> Yes, true. However only the Muslim religion says that there are ONLY three things you can do with non-Muslims. You either convert them, enslave them or kill them. Those words alone make the Muslim religion a "non peaceful" religion. <<It's all the person themselves>> This is completely untrue. The terrorists ( remember they were Muslims too who did this act in the name of Allah ) who hyjacked the planes on 911 were recruited, financed and assisted by several Islamic governments. <<but i suppose you can't give someone who isn't white a chance.>> Your completely out of line here. <<<>>Note: there are only two Democracys in the middle east; Afganistan and Iraq. << You forgot Israel.>>> I forgot Iran and Palastine. Both of which the MAJORITY of individuals elected 1: in the case of Palastine elected a terrorist group at the countrys Governmental party and 2: Iran which elected a person who has said he "will whip Israel off the face of the map".
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<But, neither is lumping in the majority of a population with a small radical sect>> Again when a religion who's "bible" and formal policy dictates that there are only three things you can do with "non-muslims"; convert them, enslave them and kill them. Doesn't exactly sound peaceful to me. And why would we be surprised when a small select few; blow up pregnant women in Thailand, murder Theo Van Gogh in the Hague, fly planes into US buildings, blow up trains in Spain, blow up buses in London, burn cars in France, decapitate christan school girls in Maylasia, recruits children to be sucidal bombers in Palastine. Sure the majority of Muslims around the world may not be doing all of the above. But their violence is definatley heterogeniously dispursed amongst all four corners of this planet ( and thats the ONLY time you will ever hear me use the word hetero on this board ).
Originally Posted By CrouchingTigger I thought he called you Nute: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nute_Gunray" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N ute_Gunray</a> >>I forgot Iran and Palastine. << OK, I'll give you Palestine as a democracy, even though it's not a country. But Iran's version of democracy is pretty laughable.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Actually he wasn't talking about KT for the most part but somebody else instead.
Originally Posted By sherrytodd Goodness and evil are not equal. Repel evil with what is better. Then that person with whom there was hatred, may become your intimate friend! And no one will be granted such goodness except those who exercise patience and self-restraint, none but people of the greatest good fortune. Qur'an 41:34-35
Originally Posted By PsylocibeFrog tom man i wasnt talking to you i was talking to beamandy!!! sorry for not clarifying better. you present your argument in a legit fashion, that guy is just hateful.
Originally Posted By RokNRollaCosta "We could start a muslim the "religion of peace thread" everyday on here as they continue to kill innocent people in the name of Allah. Islam is a death cult that ruins evryplace it is set up." Yet another ignorant statement from a close- minded, ethnocentric American. Let me say something just as ignorant. US soldiers are praised by many as they kill thousands of innocent civilians day in and day out in the name of freedom and democracy. Far- right Christianity is a cult just as much as any extremist view on religion is. There are always the very bad intertwined with the good. Wish some people on here could just realize this. Let the ADMIN'ing begin.
