Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Wow, is all I can say. NCAA threw the book at the university. They also stripped Paterno of over 100 victories. While I do not fully agree with all of the punishment, it sends a message so a coverup like this never happens again.
Originally Posted By KCCHIEF maybe...I don't understand all of the action they are taking... but....what about kids that are going there now and play for the school.... what does this likely mean for them?
Originally Posted By ecdc As far as I can tell, it means little to them. No Bowl games, no PAC title game. It means that with fewer scholarships, the school will struggle to recruit top players, which could impact the program's ability to win. But the current kids will still be able to play and will keep any current scholarships.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The current players can choose to play elsewhere (transfer their scholarship) without sitting out a year. I think the NCAA made a strong punishment, while still allowing the program to continue, which will lessen the impact on the community somewhat. Glad to see the NCAA took this as seriously as they did, hopefully it will help prevent a situation like this from repeating somewhere else.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The NCAA had to do what they did given that so many top administrators were aware of the situation and did nothing to stop it. At minimum, with the NCAA regulations on self-reporting, they should have been informed of what was going on and asked for guidance on what to do next.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Oh, and Joe Paterno's statue has been removed, too. I would have lost a lot of money betting against that happening.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb There's still some question about the statue removal being permanent, it's being kept on site in storage indefinitely, there are no plans for its destruction. Although, I was all for the death penalty on this, the judgement is fair. Even though Paterno is dead and won't suffer the consequences, nullifying his victories for the entire period of the cover-up tells coaches that their legacy is worthless if they protect a molester so there will be no incentive to allow a monster to stay free to victimize more children.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The NCAA mandated that they be paid with Athletic Department revenues. And believe me, at Penn State they have PLENTY of those to pay the fine without a problem! They may have to sacrifice a future luxury suite or two for big donors, but that's about it!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "The NCAA had to do what they did given that so many top administrators were aware of the situation and did nothing to stop it." Yeah, this is the thing for me. It even reached out into the community. So, it's a harsh punishment, and might be unfair to future students, but it sends a very strong message. The school as a whole, will suffer for this, as will the surrounding community due to (likely) less enrollment..in general even. I have a feeling this will bleed into other areas and affect enrollment for all other programs. Penn State has a big stink on it right now. Hopefully they can suffer through this and come out with a repaired image. I wish the new head coach luck...
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb So the Big Ten is getting in on the sanctions. They say that Penn State must forfeit its share of revenues for bowl games organized by the conference. They estimate this to be $13 million, which will instead be donated to charities for protecting children. I love that not only is the Big Ten giving out its own sanction but donating the money instead of keeping it.
Originally Posted By dshyates They will never reach the level of respect and commercial value of the brand that was "Penn State". Without a figure like "JoePa", and the worst team in the conference, Penn State is going to be next to Vanderbilt in value.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb It may take a few years, and it's unlikely they'll return to the glory days, but Penn State will eventually recover, IMO. I believe they came up with the best solution that sanctions the school harshly enough to discourage other school athletic officials from hiding the crimes of their faculty and staff while attempting to not hit the players too hard. There was no realistic way to punish the school without effecting innocent students on some level, but I think they came up with a fair compromise.
Originally Posted By mawnck An interesting read on Wikipedia, which explains why they aren't too keen on death penalty-ing a school's football program (because of what happened with SMU). <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D..._penalty</a>_(NCAA)
Originally Posted By mawnck Uh, try this link instead: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/62p55d" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/62p55d</a>
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 This is worse than the death penalty. Besides these NCAA sanctions, they will pay out hundreds of millions from lawsuits.. Penn State will be gone from the Big 10 within 5 to 7 years and the university will never recover from this... Way too harsh IMO, as most of the individuals that were involved in this coverup are either dead or have left the university...
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb If they don't dole out harsh sanctions, what's to keep other schools from doing something similar? They needed to put the welfare of the children harmed before school image. They didn't so there were more than 10 years worth of victims that needed never be in Sandusky's path had Paterno and other school officials done the right thing in the first place. Now other schools know they can not risk this sort of sanction by protecting their staff. If people in these positions won't do the right thing because it's the right thing they will do it because they will end up like Penn State... these sanctions are necessary in order to serve as a deterrent!
Originally Posted By barboy "You're listening to KHYP here in Santa Fe..... and it's time to go all the way back to the year 1987. This is for all those caught up in the bash Penn State wirlwind" <---- can hear Def Leppard's 'Hysteria' playing.
