Originally Posted By blueharvest82 I just heard today that the PAPP has been extended to the need of May and possibly through June. This is showing that it is a real event and simply not a filler during the off season. From what I have been hearing, the changes between this group of dates and the 2007 dates are better. I can't wait to go next week, I'll be back with a review. I just hope they are giving out the chocolate coins. I heard that they weren't giving them out the first night.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome Yup, it's been extended for at least a month now. And it's no longer off-season filler, it's all-year type filler. (I don't really like having it so often because it shortens the MK day for other guests).
Originally Posted By blueharvest82 nbodyhome, you would probably know this; How does Disney filter out the guests that haven't paid for the hard ticket event? I know there are the wristbands which get you on the attractions and to certain viewing areas for the castle shows and fire works, but do they actually get the day-time guests to leave or can they stay in the park and just not do anything?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Actually from my understanding, if you don't want to go on any rides, you can stick around and shop and eat, you just can't get entry to the rides.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Must not be negative....will not say anything....will just walk away from this!!! 8-(
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I think it's a fantastic idea to make a little extra money on the side. Heck if I was in charge of Disney I'd charge people to get to stay overnight and watch the cleaning crews at work, I am sure there are some who would pay too...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Once upon a time there was a company that stood for quality. They would put on special entertainment to make your day in the park even more special. And it would be included in your park admission. People would travel from all over the globe to go. And yes, it was never cheap, but it was always worth it. I really wish that company still existed. Sadly, it does not seem to anymore.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Disney like other businesses, only care about profit now, it sucks, but what are you going to do? Go to another theme park which is actually worse in terms of service or quality?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I don't have a problem with profit, not at all. I never scream like some when they raise the price of admission. And I would gladly welcome a price hike if they returned the quality they once stood for. It is at the point now where California is Disney's last chance. If I find they same dumbing down there as at WDW and DLP, I shall stop going all together unless the kids really beg me. It is so depressing. Disney used to be beyond this. They used to drive their business on quality. But the toys are sub par. The animated features are almost dead. The resorts are losing their souls. It is proof that PLCs are evil. I am so glad I left the corporate world last year.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 That is what it's going to take for Disney to change, people not spending their money, if enough people stop supporting Disney they will change to find another formula to make money.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Sad thing if folks like Nikkilovesdisney and Labuda never recognise the dumbing down and keep going back. One day, if I felt suicidal, I might pull a Clark Grizwald on the place to get my point across. Or I wonder if we could ever organise a Disney Fan protest march!!!! I still really do love the Disney of yore, and occassionally they do something that is exciting. I am drawn to Disney websites almost daily in the hopes of seeing it get better (like DL did for the 50th, or like DLP seemed to for the 15th - though pictures of the DLP Alice's Curious Labrynth on a French site has really ticked me off showing it was a one time thing at DLP). I find that sadly I am ranting more and more almost daily. And I come onto LP because I really do adore the people. But if I get too sour, then I will probably alienate those I do really like. Maybe after our trip to DL, if my faith is not restored, like Spirit and TDLFAN, I may take a sabbatical from Disney websites.
Originally Posted By GalDisney <<Actually from my understanding, if you don't want to go on any rides, you can stick around and shop and eat, you just can't get entry to the rides.>. No, if you do not have a wristband you are not allowed to stay . They check for wristbands and wont even allow anyone in the shops, food places and even the restrooms without one.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> How does Disney filter out the guests that haven't paid for the hard ticket event? << They check for wristbands at areas throughout the park (generally leading into the 5 lands). That happens as the party is getting started. They will have an announcement saying that you have to leave if you don't have a ticket. I did go last year to the P/P party, and it was fun. And I actually don't have a problem with it on weekdays, when the park would close earlier anyway. But I would have an issue with it on a Saturday night, when the MK normally would be open later.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Poor Dave, take a deep breath, and please don't leave us. Except for your feelings for the MK, I agree with you on practically everything. I too often feel that every new attraction is either a thrill or character. I preferred the early show of the Luau when it was Mickey and friends, but all the new characters in everything is too much for me. I put it down to my age. I don't notice the parks being dirty, but maybe I'm just having too much fun. I miss the kid's luau, but I'm sorry the Crystal Palace added characters. New is good (like a new park or ride), but I don't like most changes (Motion & Horizons giving over to Test Track & Space). I enjoyed Kitchen Kabaret, but Soarin' is great, so I'm mixed on that one. I wish the Poly was still $60 a night, like it was in '81, I wish the Castle still had pewter dishes and cups, but that won't stop me from going and enjoying my meals there. I'm sorry I forget who it was here who said Walt probably would have changed with the times and things would still be as they are now, I hope that wouldn't be true, but it could be, Walt was no fool. Times change, we change. Are your friends as good at parenting as your parents' friends were?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Thanks bobbelee9. I am ok with change in the main (like when Disney started building more themed hotels and upscale dining). But the current direction of travel, I seem to hear about more bad than good lately. I am really hoping my upcoming DL trip revitalises me.
Originally Posted By jonvn I have a hard time believing that they would stop people from using the restrooms. If someone tried to stop me from going into a restroom when I or my kid needed one, there would be a very large problem, and a CM pushed aside rather swiftly. A lawsuit might soon follow if they tried any other shenanigans. That being said, I don't quite understand why anyone would purchase a ticket for this event. There just doesn't seem to be enough there to justify it. We did use the extra magical hours thing when we were there recently. It was free, it was part of our stay. But I'd certainly would not pay extra just to stay a couple hours longer for it. I don't understand why people just cough up money for absolutely anything disney wants to sell them. It's little wonder that things are going as they are in so many ways. Disney has no reason to do things any differently.
Originally Posted By jonvn Dave: I posted somethign on another topic that you started. I basically said you're going too often, and too much of anything is not good. Throttle it back a bit. I was in the same boat a few years ago, and that's what I did. Go less often, stop caring so much, and you'll enjoy it a lot more. Don't get upset aobut things you can't change. It just shortens your life.
Originally Posted By kennect Spirit and TDLFAN are taking time off here? Gee, I missed the news.... Back on topic...Does this extra hard ticket event measure up to say what they do at Halloween or Christmas? Any opinions on a comparision?
Originally Posted By nbodyhome TDLFan is still posting, though it seems like less than before. IMHO, the Halloween Party is the best of the 3. Pirates and Princess WAS fun, though it depends on how crowded it is too. Everything was a walk-on when we went, but I've heard that other dates were more crowded.
Originally Posted By cmash95 the parties are done on nights that traditionally MK would close early and be available for private parties to rent out. OVer time fewer and fewer groups wanted to rent out the park and the powers that be have figured out that if you put your two biggest franchises together and market them just right, you can make up the drop in income from the drop in demand for renting out MK. plus you can promote two of your least used parks, the studios and AK if someone wanted to throw an after hours party. I bet that is why they are rehabbing the old abc and the old hunchback theaters.
