Originally Posted By TomSawyer <a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/colin-powell-republicans-voter-id-86488.html" target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/story/...488.html</a> How's this for an idea? This is Colin Powell speaking on Morning Joe: “Should we really have gone after reducing the turnout of voters in those places where we thought it would make a difference? The Republican Party should be a party that says, ‘We want everybody to vote,’ and make it easier to vote and give them a reason to vote for the party, not to find ways to keep them from voting at all." This is one of the key facts about the GOP in recent years that makes me wonder why people would support them. Actively trying to disenfranchise voters is about as un-American as you can get.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer <a href="http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/colin-powell-republicans-voter-id-86488.html" target="_blank">http://www.politico.com/story/...488.html</a> How's this for an idea? This is Colin Powell speaking on Morning Joe: “Should we really have gone after reducing the turnout of voters in those places where we thought it would make a difference? The Republican Party should be a party that says, ‘We want everybody to vote,’ and make it easier to vote and give them a reason to vote for the party, not to find ways to keep them from voting at all." This is one of the key facts about the GOP in recent years that makes me wonder why people would support them. Actively trying to disenfranchise voters is about as un-American as you can get.
Originally Posted By barboy Good for him.....one of the super few politicians who, more or less, based on what we know should be trusted. I mean if we have to trust people to run the show it might as well be him or somebody like him.
Originally Posted By barboy Good for him.....one of the super few politicians who, more or less, based on what we know should be trusted. I mean if we have to trust people to run the show it might as well be him or somebody like him.
Originally Posted By barboy Wow! talk about the 'In and Out Burger' effect around here ...... "I'll take a double double, hold the onions, please"
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Good for him.....one of the super few politicians who, more or less, based on what we know should be trusted. I mean if we have to trust people to run the show it might as well be him or somebody like him." The guy that sold us a pack of lies that got us into Iraq? Yeah, real trustworthy.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "The guy that was LIED TO and then sold us a pack of lies that got us into Iraq? Yeah, real trustworthy." Fixed it.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Powell was relying on information given to him by intelligence... he was deceived along with the rest of us. Many sources still say Hussein had chemical weapons but was able to get them out of the country prior to the invasion.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Powell was relying on information given to him by intelligence... he was deceived along with the rest of us. Many sources still say Hussein had chemical weapons but was able to get them out of the country prior to the invasion.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Just no reliable sources. I'm of two minds about Powell and the (in)famous UN speech. On the one hand, he was giving info that he was given; on the other hand, so much of that speech came down to the word of that Iraqi expatriate nicknamed "curveball" (including the bogus "mobile labs") that I'd like to think Powell would have insisted that his info be verified by other sources before he presented it before the world. So while I don't think Powell was as venal and intentionally misleading as Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, et al, I do think that ideally he should have done some more due diligence before putting his reputation on the line like that; admittedly, that's hard when everyone around you is telling you that you have to do it.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Powell was a good soldier. Good soldiers take orders and follow through.
Originally Posted By ecdc Donny, go watch The House I Live In, then get back to us. It's available on iTunes.
Originally Posted By SuperDry << Should prisoners be allowed to vote ? >> It depends. It's currently an issue that's decided on a state-by-state basis. Most states prohibit felony prisoners from voting. Most states allow misdemeanor prisoners to vote. What happens to felony convicts after release from prison varies widely. All states permit people in jail that have not yet been convicted of a disqualifying crime to vote - why shouldn't they? Presumption of innocence and all that. It would be very easy for someone to promote a "common-sense" rule that "anyone in jail or prison shouldn't be allowed to vote," but without considering the nuances, you'd catch in your wide-cast net innocent people that are awaiting trial and can't afford to post bail.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Donny, do you think that the GOP should be focused on making sure that as many people who are qualified to vote can vote?
