Originally Posted By jonvn Here's a surprise. Nearly everyone has had pre-marital sex. These rates have been stable for decades, going back to the 50s. That would be over half a century now. If you go back to the 40s, 88 percent have done it by the age of 44. That's 2/3s of a century. Somehow, the government telling people up to age 29 to abstain is likely not going to work very well, and is going to do nothing for the health of the general public. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/12/19/premarital.sex.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH /12/19/premarital.sex.ap/index.html</a>
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I am proud to be in the extreme minority on this issue. Call me a pansy, a wuss, a nerd, a whatever, that only bolsters my resolve that I did the right thing waaaay back in the day.
Originally Posted By jdub << Nearly everyone has had pre-marital sex.>> Strangely enough, the statistics of those engaging in such relations AFTER the ceremony drop precipitously.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I am proud to be in the extreme minority on this issue." However you want to live is up to you. We just should not be making public health policy based on how a very tiny minority behave.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>However you want to live is up to you. We just should not be making public health policy based on how a very tiny minority behave.<< Precisely. This new study is no surprise to people who have followed U.S. sexuality trends; it just confirms what they've long suspected. The Army did a study that determined a huge majority of soldiers were having sex while away at WWII and Korea. The myth of the good ole '50s is just that - a myth. Maybe now we can stop demonizing sex in our culture and respond to those who make it sound like you're some kind of freak if you like sex, regardless of marital status. The prudes are in the minority - they're the weirdos, but they want to paint everyone else that way. (I'm not calling anyone who waited until marriage to have sex a "weirdo" - I was raised in a religious family and didn't have sex until my wedding night myself. But I am saying those who push their beliefs on others are guilty of trying to distort reality by somehow suggesting it's wrong or abnormal to want sex or have sex, especially as a teenager.)
Originally Posted By DlandJB Good grief, I thought we'd put this topic to bed (so to speak). Reference Post #127 "Beyond Ridiculous" jonvn Fri 12/1/2006 10:58a OK. Everyone knows what everyone thinks at this point. If you want to change where the Government spends its money, don't write to us, write to your elected officials.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I was raised in a religious family and didn't have sex until my wedding night myself." Was it with the person you got married to?
Originally Posted By jonvn "Good grief, I thought we'd put this topic to bed (so to speak)." Just more information on it.
Originally Posted By alexbook >>"I was raised in a religious family and didn't have sex until my wedding night myself." Was it with the person you got married to?<< LOL!!
Originally Posted By LVCajun <Strangely enough, the statistics of those engaging in such relations AFTER the ceremony drop precipitously.> LOL I laugh because if I didn't I would cry.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <Strangely enough, the statistics of those engaging in such relations AFTER the ceremony drop precipitously.> ======================== A man walks into a drug store with his young son. They happen to walk by the condom display, and the boy asks, "What are these, Dad? To which the man matter-of-factly replies, "Those are called condoms, son. Men use them to have safe sex." "Oh I see," replied the boy pensively. "Yes, I've heard of that in health class at school." He looks over the display and picks up a package of 3 and asks, "Why are there 3 in this package? " The dad replies, "Those are for high school boys, 0NE for Friday, 0NE for Saturday, and 0NE for Sunday." "Cool" says the boy. He notices a 6 pack and asks, "Then who are these for?" "Those are for college men, " the dad answers, TW0 for Friday, TW0 for Saturday, and TW0 for Sunday." "WOW!" exclaimed the boy, "then who uses THESE?" he asks, picking up a 12 pack! With a sigh and a tear in his eye, the dad replied, "Those are for the married men. 0NE for January, 0NE for February, 0NE for March..."
Originally Posted By ecdc >Was it with the person you got married to?<< Well, funny story, actually Ok, just kidding.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Was it with the person you got married to?<< No, he said it was with himself. ;-)
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 "Two-thirds of a century?" Puh-LEASE, jonvn. How many illegitimate children did Benjamin Franklin have? It was WELL into the double digits. And before Mr. Franklin, what kind of scandal did nearly every British monarchy have? And what is a MAJOR theme in the Bible? I'm with jonvn and ecdc on this one. (And gadzuux, if he'd been to the thread.) It's time to finally acknowledge that humans are programmed with a STRONG natural sex drive that, in many ways, is not compatible with the social rules we create. I'd post more factual stuff, but there are apparently a number of LP'ers who run to the mods whenever I do that. My factual posts on sexual topics have a way of disappearing. Wish things would have worked so quickly when Beaumandy slurred gays right and left. C'est la vie.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy You can try, Inspector. Just look how long the circumcision thread stayed open!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Yeah, but when someone took a knife to it, most of the innuendo remained. The substantive content I contributed was cut. In other words, make a dirty joke if you're clever enough. But don't contribute factual information if another poster wants to avoid the truth. Whatever. It's the holidays. I don't want to get my knickers in a twist about it.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy I understand...and that was such a fun *and* interesting thread, too. Too bad it didn't stay an "underground" thing, lol. Happy Holidays you Bash-Master you!
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Now that I think about it, it's analogous to the Bush administration. If you want to brag about how big your johnson is, or do a little gay bashing, or boast about how often you need to get it, or spread some misinformation about sex, well... hey, that's just what guys do! If you want to say that masturbation is a sexual option that can help prevent the consequences we're all seeking to avoid, to give people information about lubes and condoms to help prevent the diseases we say we want to prevent, to provide knowledge instead of macho posturing, you're judged to have violated community standards.
