Originally Posted By tigger_twin89 On my last trip (March 2008 FAR TO LONG AGO) I asked a cast member about the rocket rod rails and what they wanted to do with it. She told me that they had Atlantis on the drawing board that included the lagoon but they built Nemo instead (SMART CHOICE). So what do you guys think they will put in there?
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I asked a cast member about the rocket rod rails and what they wanted to do with it. She told me that they had Atlantis<< That cast member's brain must have been out to lunch. What does the Rocket Rod railing and the former plan to renovate the subs to the "Atlantis" film have to do with each other?! The only thing that was done for the Rocket Rod's railing .. was they painted the section right in front of the Monorail station .. so guests would not see a rusting Rocket Rods infrastructure. The neglect of the tracks was showing ... and it would have been bad show to leave it. So, that's the only area that has shown ANY improvement whatsoever. The plans for the Rocket Rods tracks is some sort of a Peoplemover 2.0. That's what's been reported by various sources over the last few years. However ... what they SPECIFICALLY have in mind .. is carefully sealed tight within the walls of WDI. They aren't making as much as a peep on what they exactly intend to do for the track .. and the rest of Tomorrowland. The only thing that has been confirmed (sort of) was their dates to work on the land .. which would coincide on the same timeline to work on DCA (2010-2012). However .. with the souring economy .. and plans for all other Disney parks shelved .... the fate of TL (along with the Rocket Rods tracks) is unknown. I guess we'll hear something in the next few months.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Another factor to consider .. that might keep things on track for DL's TL future ... Is OLC (the Oriental Land Company) who has controlling interests in Tokyo Disneyland. They pay Disney for all their projects. And the chatter around the internet has been that Disney would take advantage of that R&D that has (generally) already been paid for ... and apply to other projects .. and end up saving money. Now .. how much R&D savings to other Disney-owned park projects is unknown. I for one do not want a Tomorrowland that is going to be a carbon copy of Tokyo's TL. So what the future holds exactly ... As we say....... we'll have to wait and see.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Cast members are the last place you want to go when you want reliable information about Disneyland.
Originally Posted By mickeymousears Why don't they have that globe/satellite thing on top of the RRs working anymore??? It added an interesting touch while waiting in the LONG space mountain line. Now it collects dust and looks like crap! I can't believe it was THAT expensive to continue running!
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Maybe next to last place.... ...sorry, couldn't resist that one." If a cast member knows something they would do well to not tell you. To talk about information until something official has been let out is grounds for discipline. They show you a film during orientation that if you overhear less than public info you're supposed to inform a supervisor or something. You wouldn't go and tell guests about it if you want to keep your job. That's what I was getting at. If you really want to get down to it, these rumor sites would be way more reliable than asking a cast member in the park a question, because it allows employees to shoot their mouths anonymously.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>If a cast member knows something they would do well to not tell you. To talk about information until something official has been let out is grounds for discipline. << Oh come on. That's a bit far-fetched. So a castmember tells me .... "Disney is planning on renovating the land, along with a new ride to go on those tracks" .. and that's grounds for ~discipline~? That's a bit EXTREME. But I suppose Meryl Streep's character in "Doubt" would find it appropriate!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Look ... all one has to keep in mind ... even when someone speaks truth ... Disney changes their minds last minute ALL THE TIME ....... This is the "fine print" to always keep in mind when it comes to The Walt Disney Company: "All information is subject to change without notice." Add that to the first page of "The Disneyland Bible".
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "So a castmember tells me .... "Disney is planning on renovating the land, along with a new ride to go on those tracks" .. and that's grounds for ~discipline~? That's a bit EXTREME." They have no right to tell you until it's public information. I don't know who Al Lutz or any other rumor monger's sources are, but if Disney found out who they are, they would most likely be fired. It's great for people like us that stuff leaks out of the company at an alarming rate, but if I worked at Disney I'm not sending crap to Al or anyone else unless I'm ready to lose my job.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Oh sure. But if someone makes a general statement about upcoming projects .... It's good for business .. in my opinion. This business is about entertainment ... and what better way to to build anticipation and get the buzz going for those park visitors for A RETURN trip .... then entertaining park guests with future plans?!! The only draw back is that Disney DOES change their plans, and dates. No one can really give a clear answer. That's why any castmember would be better off saying ... "Well, this and this is being PLANNED." That's the safe thing to say .... and that way no one gets into trouble.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< OLC (the Oriental Land Company) ... has controlling interests in Tokyo Disneyland. >>> Just as a point of order - not only does OLC have a controlling interest, they have a 100% interest in TDR. TDR is the only Disney resort that Disney itself owns 0% of. It's also the only Disney resort that's not managed by Disney. As you point out, they do pay Disney for all of the imagineering work, among other things.
Originally Posted By oc_dean And I'm SOOOO GLAD it turned out that way .... So everyone can see the stark contrast from what Disney is willing to do these days .. and what the OLC will do. My favorite "contrast" is year: 2001 ... with the opening of two parks. We know which ones they are. Glad to see OLC is willing to hold up to some of Walt's golden principles.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Oh sure. But if someone makes a general statement about upcoming projects .... It's good for business .. in my opinion." I don't disagree with that. I'm just saying what I think Disney believes. You probably saw that thread a while ago where the kid got fired for having an idea for Space Mountain and "name dropping", whatever that is. People get fired for stupid things at corporations sometimes.
Originally Posted By vmudrow I am going to Disneyland in May and have a friend that lives in Southern California. Will he be able to get the 2fer passes for my family of six without being present? Can he print them online and mail them to me? Will they ask for my ID at the gate?
Originally Posted By Bellella They closed the Rocket Rods before I ever had a chance to ride them, and I have only vague memories of the PeopleMover that used to exist. It would be great to see that overhead track used for something.
