Originally Posted By Mr X Okay, this is just getting creepy. <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7qA3cpYiz5k" target="_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=...3cpYiz5k</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X Oops... Well, I suppose some could call Capital Hill a place of "bizarre ritual" as well, though Palin is not yet present. Sorry. <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=0YJN3GOcz_k" target="_blank">http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=...N3GOcz_k</a>
Originally Posted By andyll <<Well, I suppose some could call Capital Hill a place of "bizarre ritual" as well, though Palin is not yet present.>> We could have witch burnings in the rose garden
Originally Posted By chickendumpling Lots of people believe in "spiritual warfare" like that. This video will not hurt her, imho. In fact, it may help. Criticism of it is just religious intolerance...
Originally Posted By mawnck >>This video will not hurt her, imho. In fact, it may help.<< Well, she didn't melt. That's a surprise.
Originally Posted By Mr X Palin melt? Hardly. She's no witch. She's the one who stands up in church, points to her least favorite person, and yells "SHE'S A WITCH!". There's plenty of historical precedent.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>She's the one who stands up in church, points to her least favorite person, and yells "SHE'S A WITCH!".<< That's what witches do.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I usually ignore these morning link dumps (which sounds like some sort of vile plumbing problem), but I do want to comment on this one. Criticism like this would make a lot more sense if it were divorced from all the sensationalism and, well, nonsense. There are many Christians who do engage in public prayer combined with the laying on of hands. There are also many people (Christian and otherwise) who believe there are literal witches. Not of the Halloween variety, with tall black caps and warty noses, bear in mind. Running this clip along with snarky comment from partisans, weird stuff about "backward speech" (um, yeah) and what I will plainly call religious bigotry doesn't really do much more than just reinforce what most people have already decided for themselves.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<There are also many people (Christian and otherwise) who believe there are literal witches.>> But do we want those people running the country???
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<There are many Christians who do engage in public prayer combined with the laying on of hands.>> Pretty standard fare in many evangelical churches. Some pastors just love to exorcise.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>But do we want those people running the country???<< I sure don't. And it isn't religious bigotry to say so. This is the problem we've had for sometime in this country. We let religion get away with nearly anything, and then when we finally stand up and criticize it for what it is, superstition, we're called religious bigots. It's so ironic given that gay marriage is the outrage du jour for some religious people. They're the bigots, yet they turn around and apply the label to others since we apparently won't tolerate their intolerance. Yikes. Like I said in another thread, religion can't hide behind the skirts of political correctness anymore, now that enough people are tired of religious extremists trying to force their views on the rest of us. Two rules Christians like Sarah Palin could beneift from: 1) Just because you believe it, doesn't make it true; and 2) One man's religion is another's superstition.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well said, ecdc. It is not "religious bigotry" to say that people who believe in actual witches, with or without the black hats, are - not to put too fine a point on it - nuts. Not to mention dangerous, certainly to the people they would accuse of witchcraft. After all, accusations of witchcraft EXIST in order to lead to persecution of the people accused.
Originally Posted By utahjosh So what about those who believe in an all powerful creator of the universe? And those who believe a man raised himself from the dead and turned water into wine? Are they all nuts, too?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<But do we want those people running the country???>> Maybe it works... she's a VP candidate and you're not!! LOL Given some of the crap spewed by Obama's good Reverend Wright, I think Palin's religious idiosyncrasies don't seem so bad. I don't think she or her witch doctor ever God damned America. <Ooh-ee-ooh-ah-ah, ting-tang-walla-walla-bing-bang>> LOL
Originally Posted By Dabob2 The existence or non-existence of God is probably the oldest question in the world, and one that reasonable people can disagree on. If ordinary people (typically women) are capable themselves of supernatural powers, casting spells, riding brooms, waving magic wands to make things happen, i.e. actually witches - not so much.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf It's not crazy to believe in those things, it's just irrational. But faith and logic ceased to go together when Christianity took root in the western world. With the way things are going in the world right now, I would rather have more rational thinking from our leaders.
