Originally Posted By barboy ....but soon to be Big D. 4+ and police 1. All this carnage due to being wrongfully fired, really?
Originally Posted By tiggertoo I saw 10 SWAT vans from the LAPD fly by my house at 50+ MPH a couple hours ago. I'm right at the 330/210 to Running Springs, a junction to Big Bear. I'm sure they were going up the mountain. The 210 is always packed here, so it makes sense they use Orange. This is the most activity I've seen since the fires of 2003 in Highland.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Honestly, he made some good points, the corruption of the LAPD and other police departments should concern most of America, but instead....Americans only care about Honey Boo Boo or other crap on TV...
Originally Posted By barboy ///the corruption of the LAPD and other police departments/// You know it! I'd bet a standing ovation against a cankor sore that Denzel's "Training Day" actually depicts more reality than fiction about the greater LA area police depts' widespread corruption.
Originally Posted By barboy PRE-EMPTIVE STRIKE: ......not surprising at all considering your inherent bias.
Originally Posted By ecdc So let me get this Dormer thing straight: LAPD corners the guy, orders the media away, tells *everyone* to stop Tweeting about it, possibly burns the place down, refuses to let firefighters in, then delete their own tweets telling people not to tweet. Wow. I'm no conspiracy theorist; I believe this guy was an awful person turned murderer. But that doesn't mean the cops aren't ridiculously corrupt.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 But that doesn't mean the cops aren't ridiculously corrupt.<< You expect this sort of behavior in China, Iran, and other countries with massive human rights violations, not in America...
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "So let me get this Dormer thing straight: LAPD corners the guy, orders the media away, tells *everyone* to stop Tweeting about it, possibly burns the place down, refuses to let firefighters in, then delete their own tweets telling people not to tweet. Wow." Haven't heard a thing about the tweets. I do know no one got near the fire because they had no idea if Dorner or whoemever was still alive and capable of shooting, plus there was and still is supposed to be live ammo inside the burned cabin that can be set off by the still intense heat.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Moreover, LAPD had nothing to do with tactical decisions being made in Big Bear today. That was all San Berbardino County Sheriff's. This includes decisions about what to do about the burning building. No crime has been confirmed to have taken place within LAPD's jurisdiction. Crimes have been committed in Irvine, Riverside, San Bernardino and possibly San Diego counties, all possibly by former LAPD officer Dorner. LAPD is nothing more than an interested observer at this point.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 LAPD is nothing more than an interested observer at this point.<< Except for the millions of dollars they have spent thus far on this manhunt and cover-up.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Except for the millions of dollars they have spent thus far on this manhunt and cover-up." Proof? Link? Cite?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>So let me get this Dormer thing straight: LAPD corners the guy, orders the media away, tells *everyone* to stop Tweeting about it, possibly burns the place down, refuses to let firefighters in, then delete their own tweets telling people not to tweet. Wow.<< ecdc, I KNOW you're smarter than this. Dorner was in a cabin with a television. All the police needed was some schmuck from the media announcing and/or tweeting to Dorner and the world that a SWAT team (or something) was sneaking up on him. Believe me, they were plenty stupid enough to do it. More than one prank caller got interviewed on the air, live, while all this was going down. Remember that SNL skit? "What's the one thing you REALLY hope Saddam Hussein doesn't find out?" So help me, if LP starts turning into Dorner Conspiracy Central .... well, I'm gonna be SO disappointed in you guys. The dude was a bastard who deserved to burn in that cabin AND in Hell, and I'm totally in favor of whatever the police did to make that happen. God I hope it's him ......
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Dorner could have been much more effective at getting his message out by finding a ghost writer and writing a book about the LAPD.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Disclaimer from me- Didn't know him personally. I have two co-workers whose husbands are LAPD who have hosted Dorner at their homes. Both husbands were named in the "manifesto". Both co-workers have had to put their families into hiding until this resolves itself. Both co-workers have protection themselves. One of them, her son hasn't stopped crying since last week when he had to go into hiding. He's nine years old and thinks he's going to die. Another co-worker's wife works in the same place as Dorner's mother. My wife works with the mother of the man who was killed with his fiancee a week ago Sunday. Some military assets (family friends) have been here since last week helping with the search in Big Bear. They were the ones who found the burning truck last week. There is more that will likely come out soon about Dorner and what he he did once they confirm it's him. So as not to give away to Dorner things that were learned while he was on the run, they've been kept quiet. Suffice to say, I'm with mawnck. I'm hoping he burned to death, a horrible way to go, rather than with a self inflicted bullet to his head just before the fire started.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>ecdc, I KNOW you're smarter than this.<< Mea culpa. I wrote a hasty post based on a collection of breaking news headlines and tweets. Reviewing each point I brought up, individually they all have reasonable explanations.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "You expect this sort of behavior in China, Iran, and other countries with massive human rights violations, not in America..." Do you? Welcome to 2013.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 There are rumors now that there was talk on the police scanner to burn that house down...If true, it's way off protocol for the police department to burn a house down to catch a suspect. The more I research about this case, the more messy it becomes to me..
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Who cares? No one tied Dorner up and forced him to stay in the house while it burned. If he chose to stay in the house and die rather than leaving and turning himself in, that was his choice.
