Originally Posted By HMButler79 Now it's totally outta control. Now Sea World will have 3 new attractions (a 3-d 360 dome, new Antartica etc etc) UO will have Potter Phase II and WDW will get......TWO redone spinners and Meet n Greets and a card game....Seriously do we even NEED to know who will win this theme park war. TDO has abdicated all responsibity to build actual attractions.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<UO will have Potter Phase II>> And Transformers and Kong. <<TWO redone spinners and Meet n Greets and a card game>> And a new dark ride. And a new coaster. And probably Avatar. I agree FLE isn't the most exciting thing in the world, but let's not intentionally leave out some of the stuff coming to WDW.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""And a new dark ride. And a new coaster. And probably Avatar." NOT "new", coaster w/ TWO scenes.....yup.you said it.....PROBABLY Avatar lololol.....
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It will be most interesting to watch and see how all of this plays out, will it not?
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Anyone who thinks WDW will ever be an afterthought in Orlando is sniffing too much pixie dust.
Originally Posted By dshyates And WDW has a Billion $$$ worth of super cool NextGen stuff coming like SmartCups. Oh and a few cool new DVCs!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 So you're saying by 'winning some supposed war'- UO and SW will outdraw WDW ? I sincerely hope you are not a betting man
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom If people look at the "big picture", this is a huge win for Orlando. Because when any of the 3 theme parks invest in the local community not only does it help keep Orlando working but it continues to help Orlando remain a premiere vacation destination. I really viewed this move on the part of SeaWorld to be a win for the consumer and for Florida residents in general.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>So you're saying by 'winning some supposed war'- UO and SW will outdraw WDW ? <<< In terms of new offerings and buzz? Sure. Why are people talking about Disney? They aren't.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper It doesn't matter if people are talking about Disney or not. They are going to Disney, they are spending money, and nothing has changed that even with the phenomenal success of Potter. It is the tired argument of how long they waited to do major attraction projects at the Magic Kingdom. The fact of the matter is that park has the number one attended park in the world with new attractions and without new attractions. The VAST majority of the public doesn't give it much thought. The small percentage of the public that stews about these things are the irrationally passionate fans of Disney. And, frankly, Disney doesn't need to placate those folks. We can debate these types of things forever but it isn't much different than the Trekkie debates of Original Star Trek vs Next Generation vs Voyager vs the movies.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<And, frankly, Disney doesn't need to placate those folks.>> Obviously. That's why maintenance has fallen off a cliff and continues its freefall.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Also consider everybody is cutting back Also consider most people do not clean up after themselves nowadays. Also consider nobody is observing company standards and therefore not doing their jobs appropriately. Also consider huge crowds everywhere because we do not want to stay home and deal with real life. Do you receive excellent customer service anywhere nowadays? Are you willing to pay for First Class service everywhere? Not just WDW... Why mention WDW as falling below standards in today's society? I just stayed at a Hotel full of military people in uniform not using their trays to remove (complimentary) breakfast leftovers from the tables with people waiting for a place to sit and the single person working the breakfast free buffet line was working at full speed just to keep the food stocked. Really rude inconsiderate behavior is everywhere!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Why are people talking about Disney? They aren't. > Maybe in the fanbois woirld they're not, maybe even in Orlando they're not. But I can tell you I work with people up here constantly helping plan their WDW vacations- and they are all excited about going - families can't wait to go..and like more millions than traipse thru the turnstiles at your faves...that isn't changing. Most of the people here have heard about the FL expansion- to them it sounds great. The majority of people who visit WDW are not theme park afficianado's- memorizing the ride systems that drive their attractions. They are taken aback by the latest Castle lighting show - they love the standards and the atmosphere. They visit once every 5 years or so - and most can't wait until the kids are old enough to go. so what you say about the 'buzz' is very likely true- for a smaller segment of the population even remotely interested doesn't mean I don't want new e tickets and upgrades as well- sure I do...but ripping WDW compared to the other parks has very little traction with most
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Do you receive excellent customer service anywhere nowadays?" Yes. On my recent cruise and my recent holiday to Japan. And not just at the TDR. For years here, before I went to America, there was this idea that service in the US was second to none. It was LEGENDARY. I have to tell you, it was p*ss poor in most cases. The Japanese levels of service are actually striking in how well you are treated. It is PHENOMENAL. "Are you willing to pay for First Class service everywhere?" Yes. I am also VERY happy to pay for the privilege of not being with the herd. I refuse to fly Virgin, Jetstar or any of the other el cheapo airlines because, quite frankly, I find the class of people and their unruly, misbehaved offspring that fly them to simply be beyond the pale. I will HAPPILY fork out a few hundred more so I am not surrounded by Barry and Beryl from Balga with their sweaty BO and obnoxious ways.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>But I can tell you I work with people up here constantly helping plan their WDW vacations- and they are all excited about going - families can't wait to go..and like more millions than traipse thru the turnstiles at your faves...that isn't changing.<< I'm talking industry and critics. When was the last time WDW had the press talking?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I just stayed at a Hotel full of military people in uniform not using their trays to remove (complimentary)breakfast leftovers from the tables with people waiting for a place to sit and the single person working the breakfast free buffet line was working at full speed just to keep the food stocked. Really rudeinconsiderate behavior is everywhere!<<< In my travels, I have seen military personnel be rude and crude, especially US GIs. Not a great measuring stick. I always get excellent customer service with Marriott and crowne plaza, always. Same too with Frankie and Benny's, john Lewis Partnership and Macys. I do not go to Walmart as it is the antithesis.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I always get excellent customer service with Marriott and crowne plaza, always. Same too with Frankie and Benny's, john Lewis Partnership and Macys. I do not go to Walmart as it is the antithesis.>> The CUSTOMERS at Wal-mart can be rather... well.... interesting to say the least. But I must say I have always received good customer service at Wal-mart. Of course I never shopped there until I move to SW Missouri, and sales staff here generally seem to have a much more customer-oriented attitude that those in the Minneapolis area.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Tony, that is an interesting point. All the old school Disney fans I know tell me DCL still offer the quality we came to expect of Disney. So they can still do it. They need to do so in their parks.
