Originally Posted By Darkbeer <a href="http://washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/" target="_blank">http://washingtontimes.com/new...critics/</a> >>Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue, when the Democratic presidential nominee was outlining his Christianity but accidentally said, "my Muslim faith." The three words -- immediately corrected -- were during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week," when he was trying to criticize the quiet smear campaign suggesting he is a Muslim. But illustrating the difficulty of preventing false rumors about his faith from spreading, anti-Obama groups within one hour of the interview had sliced it out of context and were sending it around via email. They also were blogging about it. Mr. Obama, who is a Christian and often proudly speaks about how his faith has influenced his public service, said he finds it "deeply offensive" that there are efforts "coming out of the Republican camp to suggest that perhaps I'm not who I say I am when it comes to my faith." << OK, so he mispsoke, but there have been a lot of McCain/Palin religious "hate threads here at LP. Senator Obama is clearly a Christian, and there is serious issues with his former pastor, Rev. Wright, and Senator Biden is a Catholic. Why can the Liberals call out the belives of the Republicans and ignore the Democrats???
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>OK, so he mispsoke<< Yes, he "mispsoke." Or misspoke. As you illustrated, it can happen to anyone, Darkbeer. ; )
Originally Posted By utahjosh It stinks that people would use this easy slip-of-the-tounge against Obama. Gladly, this is the first place I've heard about it, and hopefully it won't make anyone dismiss Obama because of this.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>call out the belives<< That should be "beliefs" I think. That's two misspeaks in one misspoken post! : D
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Senator Obama is clearly a Christian, and there is serious issues with his former pastor, Rev. Wright, and Senator Biden is a Catholic. Why can the Liberals call out the belives of the Republicans and ignore the Democrats???" How is this compareable? Obama is not Muslim, and it's a slip of the tounge, so what's to criticize? I could see how this might relate if McCain or Palin said they were one faith, but really another. Still, this doesn't make sense comparing this slip-up to the attacks on Palin. She's not shy about what she believes. At least Obama distanced himself from Rev. Wright. We have yet to hear Palin denounce her church's teachings...
Originally Posted By ecdc Oh great. Yet more fodder for those on the far right that will grasp at anything - ANYTHING - to insist Obama isn't what he says he is.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Exactly - what's the point of this thread? That it's "unfair" of democrats to point out the inconsistencies of the GOP? And worry that - in retribution - they'll continue to push the "muslim" talking point? To continue with my overarching theme today - why do you think republicans continue with this whole "muslim" smear anyway? It's a tactic that they've been employing for about a year now, right up to this very day. Obviously anybody who's paying the least bit of attention knows it's not true. The only people who would respond to this "scare tactic" are the dumbest clucks out there - and that's where the GOP aims - trying to sway the most gullible stupid americans. Is this campaigning with honor and integrity? Of course not - the republicans NEVER DO. They ALWAYS go for the politics of destruction - smearing their opponents with lies and innuendos and whispering campaigns. Anyone who's been through the last few election cycles can hardly refute this. And it's doubly ironic that these are the same folks who will proudly wear their morality and values on their sleeve, and congratulate each other on what "great americans" they are.
Originally Posted By utahjosh <Oh great. Yet more fodder for those on the far right that will grasp at anything - ANYTHING - to insist Obama isn't what he says he is.> I hope you aren't lumping me and others on this board into this group you are talking about. Because we're not doing those things.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>why do you think republicans continue with this whole "muslim" smear anyway?<< Because it works. You know what would be even better? If a Muslim-American actually runs for the presidency someday. Can you imagine the backlash? Or what about someone who is incredibly competent, but happens to be agnostic or atheist. People would come unglued. Many Amricans talk a good game about how wonderful it is that people of all faiths come here. But when it comes to elected officials, it's a very narrow spectrum that is actually acceptable.
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie The difference is when one forces their religious beliefs on the nation in the form of policy; wars in the name of God, discrimination and forced pregnancy.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Funny you should mention that. Sarah Palin believes that the iraq war is a "mission from god". There's no talking to someone with this viewpoint. What do you think she's going to do - defy god?
Originally Posted By jdub >>You know what would be even better? If a Muslim-American actually runs for the presidency someday. Can you imagine the backlash? Or what about someone who is incredibly competent, but happens to be agnostic or atheist. People would come unglued. Many Americans talk a good game about how wonderful it is that people of all faiths come here. But when it comes to elected officials, it's a very narrow spectrum that is actually acceptable.<<< YupyupYUP! BTW, I had such a strong feeling of déjà vu reading that--did you make that same strong point here months ago, K2?
Originally Posted By jdub >>Sarah Palin believes that the iraq war is a "mission from god"<< S. Palin: Jihadist?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Sen. Barack Obama's foes seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue*** Shouldn't this first line read "Darkbeer seized Sunday upon a brief slip of the tongue"?
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Why are you talking about ME??? OK, I am a well known Internet person.. But I clearly stated in the first post, Senator Obama made a MISTAKE, though it is interesting that he said it, what if Senator McCain said, my "KKK" Faith by mistake??? So forget the Democratic/LIBERAL comments but pick on the Republicans.... But the MAIN point of this thread was that BOTH major parties have Christian/Catholic candidates running.
Originally Posted By Mr X What's the main point of starting such a topic at all? Only an idiot doesn't know that both major parties have christian candidates running. And certainly there are no idiots here (well, I'm being generous but...). So what's the point, post-o-matic man?
Originally Posted By jdub >>...what if Senator McCain said, my "KKK" Faith by mistake???<< I don't have a problem with a Muslim president. I DO have a problem with anyone, public official or private citizen, who holds a "KKK Faith."
Originally Posted By JeffG If you read the transcript in context, I'm not even sure that this was really much of a misstatement. Obama was pretty clearly talking about the accusations that have gone around that he is a Muslim. He probably should have been clearer by adding "hypothetical" or "so-called" after the "my", but as far as misstatements go this was a pretty minor one. He obviously didn't slip up and accidentally say "Muslim" when he meant "Christian" as the OP suggests. -Jeff
Originally Posted By Darkbeer ^^^ HUH? Here is my OWN words in the OP... >>Senator Obama is clearly a Christian.<< Can't be more obivious than that!
