Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I never really thought about it, but someone mentioned this idea on Twitter, replacing Illuminations with World of Color. Seems like a decent enough place to put it, at first glance. I've never been to Epcot, but I've researched quite a bit about it. I'm not entirely sure, but Reflections of Earth seems like this very sacred show at Epcot that people would raise hell about if they ever removed. Would there be an uproar? World of Color doesn't get any criticism for replacing anything because it didn't. It actually has an advantage in that respect. But could World of Color replace Reflections of Earth and get away with it?
Originally Posted By Mr X YES! And they need to cancel the plan to bring Fantasmic to DisneySea and bring World of Color instead.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 WoC could in no way replace Illuminations, which does need a new/updated show. From infrastructure to the incredibly out of place theme of Disney cartoons (with a gay pirate thrown in), it just would be so out of place. Doesn't matter as Disney replaces nothing in FLA except pin and plush racks.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "And they need to cancel the plan to bring Fantasmic to DisneySea and bring World of Color instead." Depends on what they are doing with Fantasmic. If the DisneySea Fantasmic is going to be adapted to DisneySea, then no way, don't bring in World of Color, which isn't a good fit with DisneySea at all. Reflections of Earth definitely has a connection to the World Showcase that World of Color in its current form would not.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 WoC was orginally thought to be going to TDS, but logistics and $$$ stopped that. Everything I hear sez Fantasmic in Japan will be a whole new animal and very different from the two current versions. A lot of WoC tech will make its way into that show.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***If the DisneySea Fantasmic is going to be adapted to DisneySea, then no way, don't bring in World of Color, which isn't a good fit with DisneySea at all*** How do you figure Fantasmic fits any better? ***A lot of WoC tech will make its way into that show*** Well that's cool, at least.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "How do you figure Fantasmic fits any better?" I don't. I imagine they would have to adapt it, especially the backstory. However, it can be shoehorned in there the same way it is on the Rivers of America. It'll probably be a good show, though not as relevant as BraviSEAmo, but I'll never be able to see it anyway so what am I talking about haha
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo |I definately would not want WoC to replace Illuminations (I would welcome upgrades to IROE, but it is a very different animal). But replacing that horrid version of F! in the Studios would be good.
Originally Posted By Krankenstein Upgrade Illuminations with WoC tech = YES!!!! Change Illuminations out for exactly what is playing in DCA = NO!!!! The character centered WoC does not fit in the theme of EPCOT.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Upgrade Illuminations with WoC tech = YES!!!!" What if the choice was water/fire-only show and that would mean no more pyro?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy The WoC infrastructure would be nearly impossible to install in the WS lagoon in the same way it was installed in the concrete lagoon of PP. It's not really even an option.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper No. Not at all. WoC just doesn't look like it does it for me. Terrific looking tech, but lacking the "umph" RoE has.
Originally Posted By brotherdave I would definitely NOT want to see World of Color at EPCOT, especially any of the characters. However, if they upgrade Illuminations with some of the technology developed for WoC, then I'm all for it. Better, bigger water screens and fountains mixed with fire and pyro could be a huge improvement to the show. For those that see Illuminations: Reflections of Earth on a more regular basis, I could see why you would want a new show. But I've only been fortunate enough to see it twice in the last 10 years. RoE is an AMAZING show if you've never seen it. Truly spectacular. But add in some of effects elements from WoC, I'm sure it could be even more amazing! Perhaps if they improved Fantasmic! at DHS with a Fantasmic/WoC mix, that might be a more appropriate import of WoC.
Originally Posted By WDW Imagineer WoC, while absolutely incredible, should never replace RoE. Both are special in their own ways. Besides, WoC wouldn't fit in Epcot
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer NO. NEVER. PERISH THE THOUGHT. (I reeeeeally love RoE...) It wouldn't fit at all. Yes, it's a visually stunning show, and it's tech will revolutionize how Disney does night spectaculars, but in terms of theme, this is as bad as putting a large cartoon hand and wand over Spaceship Earth. ;-) That said, I'm ALL for the tech being used. The very basic idea for this show came from the original IllumiNations...Lasers, lights, synchronized fountains...It would be perfect to see it come full circle back to EPCOT. >>What if the choice was water/fire-only show and that would mean no more pyro?<< Why would you do that? They have the room. They could have both...and that would be REALLY stunning. Also, I don't think it would be possible to drain WS Lagoon and build an aircraft carrier. I think it's still, very much a natural lake at the bottom...not like DCA's. That said, I think it would be easy to use this fountain and projection tech on small barges, like they already use, and from there, have both pyro and water/projections.
Originally Posted By magic0214 I would like WOC to come to Disney World, but I don't think Epcot is the right place. I was thinking DHS would be the only possible place for an animation version, but Fantasmic is still very popular (although it is only 2 nights a week and a really lame Pocahontas sequence) Animal Kingdom could have a scaled down version in the Asia lagoon, but you would have to do all Animals and Jungle-ish characters (Nemo, Tarzan, Bug's Life, etc.) But someone mentioned in another thread why not DTD? They have the water to do it, and this seems like the place to do food packages. I would love it here, they could put some fastpass machines there, or create another method.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I would like WOC to come to Disney World, but I don't think Epcot is the right place. I was thinking DHS would be the only possible place for an animation version, but Fantasmic is still very popular (although it is only 2 nights a week and a really lame Pocahontas sequence)>>> Fantasmic could definitely use some of the updated tech from WoC to improve the show. <<Animal Kingdom could have a scaled down version in the Asia lagoon, but you would have to do all Animals and Jungle-ish characters (Nemo, Tarzan, Bug's Life, etc.)>> Wouldn't work, unfortunately. There's no way they could really draing the lake there. <<But someone mentioned in another thread why not DTD?>> Because you can go to DTD for free.
Originally Posted By jmuboy I agree with post 10: "Upgrade Illuminations with WoC tech = YES!!!!" That is what Illuminations needs to be. Imagine "We Go On" performed to the drama of the WoC fountains! Chills......
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>That is what Illuminations needs to be. Imagine "We Go On" performed to the drama of the WoC fountains! Chills......<<< People often complain about the "Slow" middle section (Acventure, life, etc).. this would really spice that up.
