Originally Posted By kennect Well our local film critic has made her say on the new Shrek film and it isn't good....Link below, not sure if you need to register or not...Regardless, the review is not kind but at the same time the film also sounds very lame period.... <a href="http://www.accessatlanta.com/movies/content/movies/stories/2007/05/16/0517LVshrek.html?cxntlid=aa-movies-rtr" target="_blank">http://www.accessatlanta.com/m ovies/content/movies/stories/2007/05/16/0517LVshrek.html?cxntlid=aa-movies-rtr</a>
Originally Posted By koobar i was never interested in seeing this movie, but it currently sits at 43% at rotten tomatoes (ROTTEN).
Originally Posted By Inkan1969 I really hope this movie bombs. A lot of the critics are noting the current movie's crutch on cultural reference humor and bashing. That has always been true of this vile franchise. It's time for people to reject this franchise and the damage it's done it's done to the animation medium.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut are people forgetting its a kids movie? Are you really calling an animated piece of entertainment vile? Wow.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 How does one movie franchise damage a medium? That seems to me like saying that the appearance of one bad novel would threaten the future existence of all books.
Originally Posted By Inkan1969 Darn straight I am, peeaanuut. Inspector, the sooner we reject the cultural reference gags and bashing that the "Shrek" franchise so popularized the better. They can't get away with bashing us anymore.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Bashing 'us'? Who is 'us' exactly. I don't understand this argument. Shrek makes a lot of self-reference jokes to popular culture. Is this somehow NEW?? Seinfeld did it for 9 seasons. Saturday Night Live owes it's very existance to it. Most late night talk shows thrive on it. What is it that Shrek done except use it in the animation world? Even Disney's gotten away with it in some of it's features, Alladin being the biggest one that comes to mine. All that said though, I'm NOT excited to see this movie for some reason. Not sure why and I LOVED the first two.
Originally Posted By Inkan1969 The "Shrek" franchise has always profited on cheap and shallow Disney bashing, kicking at us like a school bully not for any satirical point, just because it was "cool". :-(
Originally Posted By brotherdave We loved the first two movies, too! I realize that Mr. Katzenberg did have a grudge against Eisner and Disney, but, it seemed more like good natured ribbing and satire more than being truly mean spirited. Some very funny characters and lines have come from these films. Disney doesn't have exclusive rights to fairy tales and animation. I still love the Disney films, but, I like Shrek, too. And our family is looking forward to seeing this third outing as well!
Originally Posted By Mr X Sorry, but I think the Disney bashing was some of the funniest stuff in the first movie. I don't recall alot of Disney slamming in the 2nd one, just pretty much more of the same. I'm still slightly partial to the first movie, even though the second is great too. Hey, if they can manage a sequal that DOESN'T suck, I'm pretty happy (thanks, Matrix...you suck!). Once they get to the third installment, I don't expect much at all.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Inkan1969, I think I understand where you're coming from. Like Mr X, I thought much of the "Disney bashing" in Shrek was hilarious. Perfect satire, dead-on. I didn't see Shrek's "bashing" as any threat to Disney or to Animation As We Know It. Shrek is Shrek. What I see as more of a threat to "Disney-quality" animated movies is Disney itself. Enough with relying on fart jokes and other non-clever and non-original "humor" to carry a Disney movie already.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I think that Shrek won't age well. I think that 20 years from now it will be very dated with its obsolete gags.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle I'm not a big Shrek fan, although it doesn't "offend" me. I just never really thought it was as hilarious as everyone else seems to think! I enjoyed both movies, but have only seen them once each and I'm not really excited at all by the third one. I'd only go see it if someone really wants me to go with them, otherwise - maybe DVD.
Originally Posted By xrayvision >>The "Shrek" franchise has always profited on cheap and shallow Disney bashing<< Even Disney makes jest at itself in various amimated films. For example..in the Lion King, Scar asks his captured servant, Zaszu, to sing a song. Zaszu starts singing "its a small world" and Scar says "ANYTHING BUT THAT!" The Shrek films made slight jest of Disney in a similar fashion, as well as made jest of several non-Disney related fairy tales and American pop icons like Little Red Riding Hood and Starbucks. The reputation of Starbucks, Little Red Riding Hood nor Disney were tarnished by the humorous jests. Regarding critics opinions of animated films, Roger Ebert (whom I really appreciate) gave Lion King a less than glowing review and still stands by his original opinion despite Lion King's huge box office success. The general audience loves Ebert but didn't share his negative opinion of Lion King.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney I don't see what's wrong with the Disney 'bashing'. It's all in good fun and Shrek isn't the only one that satires Disney, far from it. In fact, Saturday Night Live, one of the examples I mentioned earlier use to do FUNNY send ups of Michael Eisner and I still laugh over those. Just small 30 second 'commercials' of Eisner reminding you why you should spend your summers at DisneyWorld. And who could forget the Nancy Karrigon show (spelling??) one when he was trying to get her to enjoy the parade she was in after winning the medal and she kept calling it corney. That stuff is CLASSIC!!! It's what makes Shrek, Shrek in my opinion (and besides, the satirize EVERYTHING in those movies. It's not all GET DISNEY!!)
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<<It's time for people to reject this franchise and the damage it's done it's done to the animation medium.>>> What exactly do you mean? What damage and what bashing? I don't see it. If it's about insulting fat people, spare me of that. I get told by my kids that I am fat DAILY. If I want to be thin, it's not that hard to figure out how to lose weight.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad ^ ^ ^ Oh yeah, sorry I didn't read post number 10 before I posted this. But still....IMHO when "some other" flim company bashes Disney, it adds credibility to Disney in my opinion. He who sits on top always draws the most unfriendly fire. But you would think that other studios wouldn't do it.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<<Mr. Katzenberg did have a grudge against Eisner and Disney, but, it seemed more like good natured ribbing and satire more than being truly mean spirited. >>> I would disagree with this QUICKLY, and it has nothing to do with his new films. If you ask Eisner, Katzenberg acted like a spoiled child. If you ask Jeffery, Eisner was a total Tyrant. I'd guess there is still plenty of bad blood between those two, which goes far deeper than the "bashing" in Shrek films. Of course I could be wrong. Perhaps they are best friends now. Perhaps.
