Originally Posted By pipanale As I mentioned, I was there 2 weeks ago. My first trip to the MK since March of 2003. So, it had been a while. While I'll never say I was disappointed with things, I wasn't thrilled with the lowered services and appearance of the attractions. Now, it may just be my luck at never having anything go well, but the first few hours of my trip were a mis-service tour de force. But, on to the MK the following day. IASW was pretty sad looking. For some reason, when we entered the first “roomâ€, I happened to look up…and saw that a good chink of the ceiling tiles were gone, exposing the duct work and stuff above. Since I was looking for it after that, I think I noticed that in at least 2 of the other rooms. Kinda lame. Pooh’s Playful spot (a name dripping with double entendre possibility if you ask us), was nice for the kids, but what is it doing there? Is it better to look at than a hole in the ground where 20K used to be? I guess…but, a playground? Line Cutting: Holy H-E-Double Hockey Sticks! What it up with that? Mom gets on line. Dad and the kids sit to the side (Dad on the cell phone yelling about TPS reports). When Mom nears the end of the ride, the rest of the gaggle comes barreling through the queue saying that they “need to catch upâ€. Now, if it were just me and the wife, I would have caused a scene and a half, but since I was trying to behave, I just stood there, slack-jawed at the spectacle of it all. I mean…where do we start? This goes beyond the popular adage of “people suckâ€. This is 147% indicative of just how awful people and society have become. You can hear them in their heads “Clearly those rules don’t apply to ME There’s no way they expect ME to wait on line with THOSE peopleâ€. These are the same people who still pitch fits at airports when they are not allowed to carry on a steamer trunk filled with liquids. Ugh.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Cautious.. you sound a bit like TDLFAN and you know how hard he has it making people understand about the lowered bar in regards to some issues at the MK. And yes, pity me too since I *also* have to deal with those loosers from the security check point and their liquids.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Cautious.. you sound a bit like TDLFAN and you know how hard he has it making people understand about the lowered bar in regards to some issues at the MK. >>> Just today at lunch, I got into a conversation about Disney, and of course the subject of "So SuperDry, when is your next trip planned?" I lamented that I was unable to make it to TDR for the Halloween stuff this year, but looked forward to seeing the Christmas decorations. Eyes were of course rolled, along with someone saying "Surely they must have Halloween and Christmas decorations at WDW - why don't you just go there?" Oh, where do I start?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Start by giving these folks a link to my albums (now available for viewing) where they can compare the Halloween decor and happenings from DLP, HKDL, and TDR versus what WDW's MK is doing. Tell them to hurry as those photos will come down in mid November when the Xmas albums will start appearing. Or better yet, send them over and I will give them a good spanking.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> they “need to catch up†to Mom. << I don't have a problem with this kind of line juggling at all. I just tell them "Sure -- Mom can just wait at the front of the queue for you until our line naturally advances that far. Then we'll all be together again!"
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy "Or, if you need to get back with Mom sooner, she can come back through the line and join you here!" "Either is much easier than the hastle of having to bump through everyone in the line on your way to the front." "Let me help you with that...."
Originally Posted By pipanale Yea right. What I wanted to do was just simply stand there...blocking their paths as they bumped up against me. Like the old ladies in the supermarket who want you to fill the line gap and bang you with a cart. Then, when Dad, clearly upset having not gotten his way for once, would flip out. Then I would laugh. But, we need everyone's cooperation. In August, I was in an eternally long line at PHL to get through security. I was finally alomst there and a woman walked up in front of me. She turned and said "It's OK, right?" I told her it most certainly was not because we'd all waited and she could do the same. She got out of line, got in behind me and asked the next woman the same. She allowed her to cut the line. I nearly lost it. But, back on topic... Memo to WDW: Go to Home Depot. Buy some of those drop ceiling tiles and some black paint. Pain them, hang them. I don't need to see exposed ductwork.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Memo to WDW: Go to Home Depot. Buy some of those drop ceiling tiles and some black paint. Pain them, hang them. I don't need to see exposed ductwork.<< No kidding. But hey, it might be us missing the wave of the future. That stuff makes great theming. Ask the guys who made the 200K/yr who designed M:S and Test Track.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Buy some of those drop ceiling tiles and some black paint. Pain them, hang them.< I don't mean to support bad maintenance and get called a pollyanna or anything. I just want to point out that in a high ceiling attraction like iasw, there just isn't any easy access to get up there. The attraction would have to be shut down, water drained, and scaffolding built to get to the ceiling. So it's a big job, but I completely agree that they should be either making the effort to get in and fix the problem or be proactive and replace the soft ceiling tiles every 5 years or so, preventing them from rotting and falling in the first place. Or maybe putting fabric up there above the tiles, so if one falls at least it's not so noticeable.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ The problem Dan is that IASW just came back from a lengthy gutting and overhaul. So what's the excuse? There were already things I did not like about the overhaul but I didn't think shoddy ceiling tiles would be one of them. Even I had enough faith that they could build something as simple as a dropped ceiling to last longer than 20 months. It's not like guests are interfering with it.
Originally Posted By danyoung Chi, I completely agree with you. I was only pointing out that replacing a tile in this environment is a bit more complex than just getting on a stepladder. But agreed, still no excuse.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 Note to TDLFAN, Re post number four,your last line. Wrong fantasy land dude
Originally Posted By LacyBelle I always want to use similar lines to the ones ssWEDguy offered to line cutters, but usually chicken out. I usually try the stretching out with DH and taking up the walkway routine, but some of those line cutters are so persistent. I, too, am disappointed at the amount of line jumping there is. One person will be sent ahead to get in line while the rest of the part enjoys a shorter lined attraction or to get a snack. If the entire party is not ready to get in line for the attraction, wait until everyone is ready. Then wait in line with the rest of us. How difficult is that?
Originally Posted By ChiMike For me, all it takes is "NO". But I can understand why some others might not want to be as confrontational. The thing is that these scumbags depend on people not wanting to be confrontational. So why play into it? You know? In the small cases that "NO" does not suffice or draws out threating behavior, there should always be a CM nearby.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <For me, all it takes is "NO". But I can understand why some others might not want to be as confrontational. The thing is that these scumbags depend on people not wanting to be confrontational. So why play into it? You know? < As a fellow Chicagoan, I am proud of this response. It's like someone trying to get on a crowded El in winter ahead of those waiting, someone cutting the line at a sporting event here etc....no way...
Originally Posted By CMDad Even more than line cutting, I hate those who take continuous flash pictures in a dar attraction. I finally got fed up on this trip when a clueles woman kept taking one flash picture after another in Pirates. (She was also letting her little girl act up in the queue, and actually encouraging her.) Now, I don't usually get too upset if someone takes one or even two flash pictures, but those who take one after the other as soon as the flash recharges really get me angry. Finally, I leaned over to her and asked in my most polite, "Can I help you?" mode; "What part of 'no flash photography' do you not understand or feel pertains to you?"
Originally Posted By ChiMike CMDad I hear you on that. I have the worst experiences with this at DL's Haunted Mansion. I am literally cursed when it comes to ride throughs on that. My family now glares at me instead of the flash offender just hoping I will swallow and not make a nasty comment on the upramp from unload.
