Originally Posted By tashajilek Ok so i have been working almost 2 weeks straight at my job to cover for a co-worker to go to California. She has not been to Dl since she was 10 years old and was excited to go. Yesterday she came by and said " yea i was expecting DL to have like more rollercoasters" she also stated it wasnt the same as when she was 10 years old and seemed to be more geared towards little kids. She told us she also went to Kottsberry and it was so awesome and much better then DL. Like are people fricken nuts or something???? I explained to her how Knotts is something more for teenagers looking for a thrill and Dl is very detailed, creative and more adults appreciate DL. I really am shaking my head here and really dont understand how people want just a quick thrill over being visually stimulated?? Dont get me wrong i like a good rollercoaster myself but for that i prefer 6 flags to Knotts But never would say 6 flags is better then DL. Ahhh what can you do i guess it takes certain people to appreciate creativity and imagination.
Originally Posted By Moondoggie Disney is about the theme. It's about standing out above the rest. It's quality, and it's immediately recognizable. You show a picture of an attraction like Dumbo or the Tea Cups and you know what park you're looking at. Disneyland is about the magic. All the rest are amusement parks. The rides are generic, and if you showed a picture of them, many would not know exactly where that "ride" was. It could be a ride, anywhere. Knott's comes a little closer to thematic attempts due to what Walter Knott tried to establish so many years ago. But that seems to have largely fallen by the wayside. Sure there are similar rides to the tea cups at other parks, but the tea cups are pure Disney. The park, and its attractions, have established themselves as recognizable, and special, even if some of them are similar to other "rides" at other parks. And I think therein lies part of the difference, they're "rides" at other parks, at Disneyland they have been elevated to the level of attractions. The other difference is in the imagination and the magic that Disneyland has the monopoly on in my opinion. The thrills at Magic Mountain and Knott's vs. those at Disneyland will always be a debate, and there will always be those who choose the two former parks. For me, it's DL. All the way. For all the aforementioned reasons, and more. Nothing compares.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "For me, it's DL. All the way. For all the aforementioned reasons, and more. Nothing compares." Totally agree. It just bugs me to hear "Disneyland is for little kids" There are not other parks in the world that have such a adult fan base as Disney. Yes Disney is for kids and Adults where a place like MM or KBF are geared more towards teenagers.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt There are a lot of people who like Knott's as much as or even more than DL. Back when DCA opened there was great debate on whether or not DCA was designed to compete directly with Knott's offerings. Personally I find Knott's a complete waste of time. "she also stated it wasnt the same as when she was 10 years old and seemed to be more geared towards little kids." This comment really struck me because it's issue that I've been complaining about for a long time now. Disney needs to be very mindful of the direction they are taking their parks. With all of the recent Princess and Pixar additions I have to say that I agree with her.
Originally Posted By Hista98 i could see people liking knotts over disneyland. those who like roller coasters and thrill rides more should be more accustmed to knotts. Not surprised one bit.
Originally Posted By Hista98 i did find it funny that she said it hadent changed since she was little. I'm a huge disney history buff and i could probably look up what was at disneyland when she was 10 and whats there now and there would be an abundance of differences. since she was so little when she last went and it was a while ago she probably doesn't remember what it was like. Also since DL hasen't changed in appearence a lot in some areas she probably is confused.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Teens and young adults are likely going to prefer the "action" of a Knott's or Magic Mountain. I had that time in my life when it was more about rollercoasters. It should not be surprising.
Originally Posted By doombuggy I use to like Knott's as much as DL until the family sold it. It had a charm to it now they are ripping out what gave it that charm and turning it in to another MM. The only thing that keeps me coming back to Knott's is the Haunt.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Your co-worker hasn't been since he was 10 years old -- what year would that have been?
Originally Posted By tashajilek "The only thing that keeps me coming back to Knott's is the Haunt." Yes the Haunt is excellent, i am leaning more towards universal's version. I actually have a all year pass for Knotts and whenever i go, i do ghostrider go in a few shops and leave. "With all of the recent Princess and Pixar additions I have to say that I agree with her. " This is true Hans but i dont really think HM, POC, Indy or TOT are really geared towards little kids. In fact i have seen kids crying on all of these rides before. I have also heard kids complaining HM and Poc were boring. I dont know i guess it's personal prefrence. My other co-worker is getting a chance to go to Paris next month. So i told her you have to try out DLP at least one day. She has never been to a disney park ever and said why would i waste my time going to stupid Disneyland?? I was so offended lol.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Another reason some prefer Knott's over DL is the price: Knott's "Season Pass", which is essentially equivalent to a DL AP, costs about the same as a one-day, one-park DL ticket. I can very easily see someone thinking "why would I spend my money for one day at DL when I can go as often as I want to Knott's for the same price?" and working backward from there as to which is better.
Originally Posted By friendofdd I am very grateful for those who prefer other parks. DL is doing a fantastic job attracting visitors and it is crowded a good bit of the time. Please do nothing to attract even larger crowds.
Originally Posted By LuLu I don't care for Knotts b/c I don't like thrill rides, but I totally get that some prefer it. I also would never expect a non-Disney fan to visit a Disney park when traveling overseas. I planned a 23-day vacation in France and wasn't including DLP until it was explained to me that I'd see Disney thru a European perspective. Also a friend and daughter who have had DL APs went to Paris and decided not to do DLP. There's a lot to see in Europe besides Disney, so I get it
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I like Disney...a lot...but if I had two weeks in France or that part of Europe I can't say DLP would be high on my list of things to do.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >> I planned a 23-day vacation in France and wasn't including DLP<< Wow. Really Lulu? Just the re-scripted PotC alone would have me at DLP. Or .. have you been there at least once before?
Originally Posted By TP2000 There are also people that don't like Nordstrom because the clerks try and help you and offer personalized service to customers who have shopped there for years, compared to Target where you are on your own and you are simply a pester to the clerks who work there for only a year or two at a time. There are people for whom a 20 year old Geo Metro that gets from point A to B is just fine, and then there are folks who spend extra money to buy an Audi for the Quattro all wheel drive and finely crafted interior fit and finish. The same analogy applies to restaurants, furniture, hotels, any number of consumer experiences. Some people just love Knott's Berry Farm and drool over Six Flags, and some people find those parks trashy, crass and boring. To each his own.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "There's a lot to see in Europe besides Disney, so I get it " No i totally get it. I told her all about DLP and she even wants to go to DL. I suggested she go for only one day but to call it stupid was weird for me. I one day want to go to DLP and my trip would be based around DLP.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss When I was a kid, it was a given that if my parents were taking me and my sisters to DL we were going to Knott's too. I definitely have as fond memories of things in Knott's as I have of DL. But as an adult, I guess there was nothing to draw me back to KBF as there is with DL. It's not because I don't like roller coasters and such. I think it has more to do with Disney synergy; that they have the movies and so on. KBF has virtually no presence outside of the park, so I just don't think about it much. Consequently, the only thing I go to KBF for is for the chicken.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle A friend went to Disneyland Paris the year before last and returned saying that Dreamworld, a local theme park in Australia, was much better because she didn't like the annoying music DLP played all the time and because Dreamworld's thrill rides are better! Now in fairness I've never been to DLP, but I sincerely doubt that the local worn-out theme park near me is really superior... But I guess not everyone can like the same things! What really disappointed me is I've been friends with this girl for 20 years, you'd think I'd have brainwashed her better in that time...
Originally Posted By wonderingalice I haven't been to Knott's since I was about six years old, so I never did the coaster thing there. Disneyland has always been my favorite, even as a teenager. And I've always loved coasters, even as a little kid. We took school trips to Magic Mountain as well as Disneyland... it was fun, but if I'd ever been asked to choose between the two - no contest... Disneyland would win without a second thought. I'll admit to mild curiousity when we're on the freeway (Mr. Alice and I often head to Redondo Beach for breakfast at "Eat at Joe's" one morning during Disneyland visits) and I see the Knott's exit signs on one side and the coasters on the other. But I have no desire to give up a day at Disneyland to check it out. That said, the only overseas Disney parks I'd really love to see are those in Tokyo. We may do Europe someday, but Paris DL would be an unlikely stop - too many other things to do/see.
