Originally Posted By u k fan I am also pleased that Doobie has responded so quickly this time as I don't think I could face a repeat of last time!!!
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <While that leaves me just as baffled as any of you, it also leaves me satisfied.> Interesting. I am also baffled. But not satisfied. In fact, I'm disappointed. Just goes to show ya...
Originally Posted By u k fan While I can understand why someone could be satisfied I'm saddened that anyone would be satisfied over this. We have still lost a member of our community!!!
Originally Posted By johnno52 We have to all remember that this is the World Wide Web and anything and everything posted is being watched. I'm not referring to our moderators but to any number of people. Do you really know who I am? (but please don't worry). I also run a discussion group although its a health one and we do not get into any confrontational discussions. I do not have any problems whatsoever, however we deal in serious health issues. It has come to our attention by the members that they never want to use their real names as a future employer could Google their names and find out personal information on them. This could have similar repercussions as any information that is posted never gets deleted completely. The right people can always retrieve information. I am assuming that the moderators of LP also have to protect themselves, their site and many of the posters from any possible future legal confrontations. You are living in the US a country with high legal prosecutions. One person unhappy with a discussion can threaten to sue for monetary damages and or cease and desist orders. I assume what happened with jonvn yesterday was "the straw that broke the Camel's back". I as many are stunned, but like they've stated they have their reasons.
Originally Posted By Ursula I think he's satisfied from the answer given...not that he's satisfied that someone got banned. The answer is that we won't be told the specifics to both protect the poster's privacy and to protect LP from the many questions and fallings-out that would happen if they did list the reasons why. At least that's my take on it.
Originally Posted By u k fan Not to derail this thread, but I once Googled a company I deal with at work and found one of their employees (someone I personally deal with) mention where he worked on a discussion board posting. I was able to find out which town he lived in, how old he was, where he went clubbing at the weekend... Very scary!!!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***With all due respect, the poster in question regularly violated Community Standards. It is true that in recent months he had tempered his comments to stay within the letter of the Standards.*** He most certainly did not. And considering you're one of the mods, and a religious type to boot, this situation is not all that surprising DOUG.
Originally Posted By u k fan Ursula, now that I read it I can see what you mean re: satisfied, but I did read it the same as Jim so perhaps it was badly worded?!!!
Originally Posted By Doobie I'm not sure how much clearer it can be said. Report to Mods do not cause people to get banned from LP. We make that decision based on lots of different criteria. You can choose to believe that or not. No one is to "blame" for his being gone but me. And nothing that's been speculated about here on any side even comes close to identifying all the things that went into the decision. Doobie.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***It is the case that whenever the subject of religion, any religion, was being discussed, the poster would interject opinions that were uniformly intolerant, unkind, and dismissive.*** He has every right to his opinion. Once again, there's nothing in the community standards that speaks to religious opinions. But that sure is what it has come down to.
Originally Posted By Doobie <<< ***With all due respect, the poster in question regularly violated Community Standards. It is true that in recent months he had tempered his comments to stay within the letter of the Standards.*** He most certainly did not. And considering you're one of the mods, and a religious type to boot, this situation is not all that surprising DOUG. >>> Doug is not one of the mods. He writes for LP but has no say over anything on the discussion boards. <<< Once again, there's nothing in the community standards that speaks to religious opinions. But that sure is what it has come down to. >>> You simply don't know what you think you know, Mr. X. Doobie.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Report to Mods do not cause people to get banned from LP.*** Without going into details, now you're just being dishonest Doobie.
Originally Posted By Mr X I'm just going to leave this alone now. Obviously I'm fearful of being banned over this myself. I can honestly say though, that there is something fishy about this and it did not go down in a cool way. Oh well. As someone else said, not my sandbox.
Originally Posted By Bob Benchley He did this to himself. He's a smart enough guy to know the difference between just being disagreeable and rubbing someone's face in it. He constantly pushed the limits, especially in WE, and especially on certain topics. He could have made his points, backed off and moved on, but he always had to get in a last, deep thrust. I can remember many, many times he was asked to be civil. He took it as censoring him. Ultimately, he reaped what he sowed. He has no one to blame but the person in his mirror.
Originally Posted By Doobie No one's going to get banned for disagreeing with this decision. But when I see something that's just plain wrong posted as fact, I have a right to correct it. Doobie.
Originally Posted By Bob Benchley I'll say one thing. This thread has gone too far to be an April Fools joke now. Too many frayed emotions to make it worth any joke.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 <<<And considering you're one of the mods, and a religious type to boot, this situation is not all that surprising DOUG.>>> Mr X you know I like you but you've crossed the line here. Let it go. Doobie's come on now twice or has it been three times now to explain his decision. I appreciate the timeliness in which it was done this time. Much healthier approach. Thank you Doobie. I know I've been one of your sharper critics about this. While I've never hit report to moderator on jonvn or anyone else for thier opinion I have to say in my opinion he stretched the boundaries of civility even for a discussion board. Am I happy or sad to see him go? Not really. It was explained to us all here a long time ago with another episode similar to this that LP will keep ticking no matter what value we think we have here. So I no longer get worked up about who's here and who's not. I just post to those that are participating on that particular day and leave it like that. I will say just like in the past with others in WE, it becomes boring to read and participate when every thread becomes the rerun opinions of a few who keep expounding their positions in ways that do not favor debate and derailing thread after thread.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Interesting. I am also baffled. But not satisfied. In fact, I'm disappointed.<< As noted in post #120, I am satisfied that there was good reason for the action taken. That was the context of my statement. >>And considering you're one of the mods...<< As noted in post #127, I am not a Moderator, nor have I ever been. Nor do I carry any particular weight with the Mods. >>...and a religious type to boot...<< If I, or any other members of this community were to preface a complaint about you with the statement that you were "not a religious type," we wpuld, quite rightly, be accused of bigotry. >>Once again, there's nothing in the community standards that speaks to religious opinions.<< Quite so. There is nothing to be said about ANY opinions in the Community Standards. Opinions are the coin of the realm in all of the discussion boards. There is a great deal that is said, however, about tolerance and respect for the opinions of others. Specifically: >>6. NO FIGHTING: Please be polite to all posters on the Discussion Boards. Mean spirited messages and exchanges will be deleted at the administrators' discretion. We also ask that you don't unnecessarily antagonize others, and don't represent yourself as another person. Also, do not post any material that is defamatory, infringing, obscene, violates the legal rights of others. And remember, you can be held legally liable for what you write. 7. NO PERSONAL ATTACKS: Personal attacks against anyone - other posters, public figures, names in the news - anyone, is not allowed on LaughingPlace.com<< <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-Rules.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms gBoard-Rules.asp</a>
Originally Posted By DlandDug Ah. Shoulda read what Lisann had to say. Quite right and more succinct.
