Originally Posted By FerretAfros I still doubt that they could completely replace the entire track that quickly. It seems to take most parks around a year to install a new coaster, from ground breaking to opening. Add in the constraints of working inside an already built building (they usually build the track and then put the building around it), and having to take out the current track, and that would add some serious time to the project. I would definatley believe it could be done in 18 months, but 9 is kind of pushing it. As for adding sound, it may be a second blessing in disguise. If they do it in a similar way to how it was done in DL (which I would hope they would have learned from by now), they could easily be in a situation where they would need to replace the entire track in just a few years. The reason for replacing DL's track was that the added weight of the sound system caused stress fractures in the track over time, and they deemed it unsafe to operate any longer, shutting it down for an emergency 3-year rehab (that was shortened by several months to get it opened for the 50th, by paying for lots of overtime).
Originally Posted By Britain Ha! Yeah, paying for lots of overtime to install Rockit Mountain lighting effects that aren't used.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 wow - first in W/E I get told I'm a one track poster and basically stop posting -now in WDW I'm a hoodlum.... LP- kinder and gentler for 2009 - geez
Originally Posted By blueharvest82 And harvest82....... what was that all about? It looks like your posts came out of left field. I try to always be calm, and then spirit of 74 had come rolling in with his i'm better than you attitiude and make that one comment. and i lose it.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> wow - first in W/E I get told I'm a one track poster and basically stop posting -now in WDW I'm a hoodlum.... LP- kinder and gentler for 2009 - geez << Well, that's better than being called a Thug, isn't it?
Originally Posted By Tip Top Club It only took about two months to build an indoor wild mouse coaster (Basically the same as Mullhollund(sp?) Madness) in chicago, where they were dealing with snow. I have faith that they could unbuild and rebuild the entire track in that time frame...That's not to say I think they are, or they will, just they could.
Originally Posted By brotherdave They also may have learned a few lessons with the DL rebuild which could possibly speed up the process.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >><<TRhe pixaration of disney has to go. I am a disney fan, not a merger fan.>> Pixar happens to be one of the absolute very best parts of TWDC right now << Well ... it wouldn't be so bad if most of the latest Pixar changes from park to park were appropriately placed. It's like ... Oh here's the latest Pixar ride idea. Now what land can we shoe-horn it in, even if it doesn't fit the land's primary theme? Monsters Inc. Comedy Club .. perfect example! Pixar may be the best Disney has right now ... Doesn't mean the overall tone of Pixar is just a bit too harsh on the "contrast" compared to the rest of Disney where the overall tone isn't as "sharp" and "in your face".
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "It only took about two months to build an indoor wild mouse coaster..." That's part of the joy of wild mouses (mice? meese??), that they can be constructed very quickly. Most track designs are created in a way that they can be packed up and moved very easily to go aorund with traveling carnivals(including the one used for Mullholland Madness, why else would they have the huge cage-like structure holding it up instead of a couple sturdy columns into deep fountations?). While I have no doubt that it would be entirely possible to replace one track in a building in 9 months if really nessecary, I think it would be fairly tough to do it with two tracks, especially ones that are so long as Space Mountain (MM isn't known for being a nice long ride...I'd be surprised if it was even 60 seconds) in that time period. Factor in the close proximity of set pieces and walls (the tunnels at the beginning and end), and there are plenty of little things that add a ton of difficulty on to the project. Now, if they really wanted to, I'm sure they could replace the entire thing in 9 months. However, I just don't think Disney sees the need to rush it and pay all of the extra overtime for that to happen, when they could just as easily keep it closed for a year or more.
Originally Posted By -em I am glad to see it finally get *a* rehab (as it seems to spend a LOT of time on the 101 list (course so does a lot of rides.. ANYWAY) I wish it was as long as it needs and I do think its odd they are waiting till basically spring break to take it down and then all summer... It would make MORE sense to take it down in Sept-May as you'd loose a LOT less peak time than April-whenever... And just for the rant... >>-WWW.LAUGHINGPLACE.COM IS THE ONLY WEBSITE IN HISTORY EXCEPT FOR SOME PORN SITES TO BE COMPLETELY BLOCKED FROM ANY COMPUTER ON DISNEY PROPERTY, EXPLAIN THAT.<< Umm it passes the filters and those suckers are STRICT (no photobucket, blogs, yuku boards etc) but of course *I* wouldn't know
Originally Posted By Tip Top Club That was my point, they're not going to do it, but I would presume they COULD if they wanted to.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad Just wondering. In DL did they replace the whole track? I had pictured refurbishment as meaning that they just replaced track that damaged or worn. So in WDW is everyone thinking total replacement? I would welcome a new smoother ride bacause as I've posted before SM is tough on the neck and head (whiplash) especially if you are in the last seat on the second car...............................................................................................................................And, what are the sound effects that everyone keeps talking about that might be added? Is it something in each car or is it something added to the building?
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad <<<<<<<<<<<<Well ... it wouldn't be so bad if most of the latest Pixar changes from park to park were appropriately placed.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>................................................................................................................................................I don't care where the rides are placed as long as they are quality rides. But it does seem that WDW might start considering creating a more common location for PIXAR since it seems that they are going to be a major player for the forseeable future. Toontown would seem like the logical location to me. Not because of spacing or land just in theme.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad >>>>>>>>>I try to always be calm, and then spirit of 74 had come rolling in with his i'm better than you attitiude and make that one comment. and i lose it.<<<<<<<<<<<<<......................................................................................................................................I think you are taking Spirit's attitude too personally. He's not saying he better than you specifically, he is saying it too everyone. I think half the time Spirit does this to facilitate his sense of humor. I like the Spirit. He is witty and funny and I look forward to his posts. He is also very well informed. So don't get upset when he prods you. Prod back. He can take it as well as he gives...........................................................................................BTW props for being a server. It's a tough job that not everyone has the patience for. One comment. Why do you have to tip out a percentage of the check rather than a percentage of the tips? It doesn't seem fair that you could actually lose money when patrons don't tip enough.
Originally Posted By barboy ///In DL did they replace the whole track?/// Yes,.....but they kept the track layout/dimemsions, as far as I can tell, *exactly* the same. They changed the rockets, added in some effects and enhanced the sound and lighting. ///what are the sound effects that everyone keeps talking about that might be added? Is it something in each car or is it something added to the building?/// ---certainly in each rocket...... and I would assume in the building too.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The sound effects that they have in DL is an audio track synchronized with the movements of the cars, composed by the guy who wrote the music for The Incredibles (Michale Giacciano??). It definately adds to the experience, but I honestly don't know if it's worth completely replacing the track to do it (though the new track is pretty amazing!).
Originally Posted By MPierce CarolinaDisneyDad I notice in some of your post you have a lot of >>>, and .... . Is that you are your computer doing that?
