Originally Posted By mousermerf Spaceship Earth had Epcot Cast Member previews on Thursday and resort-wide CM previews on Saturday. They dont do those unless the ride is pretty much finished. That's it folks, that's the death knell. It aint getting better.
Originally Posted By leobloom But it's just in previews! They have a sign that says that. So I'm sure there are lots of changes to come, because it officially opens in Feb. I'm just teasing, merf. We've known all along that this thing is finished. It's the Disney apologists who haven't come to terms with it yet.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Hopefully these are just previews for what it will look like for the next month or so, and not permanently. This attraction doesn't seem finished from the reports I've seen, so hopefully they will continue to do a lot of work on it. You would think that they would have learned their lesson on stuff like this when DL premiered a half-finished Light Magic a decade ago. I guess some things never change.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Ferret.. really? I mean this in the most uninsulting amnner possible, but that sounds more like you trying not to be upset and grasping for straws them accepting the truth. They do not schedule CM previews for a ride which is not finished.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Best part of this whole discussion is that almost no one has seen it and all opinions are based on the sole idea that changing the ending is going to be awful (when it wasn't much before). From what I have read on these boards and others is that the first part is pretty much the same. So why is that so terrible. I for one will reserve any judgment or pre-judgment until I have actually seen it in around 64 more days.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Best part of this whole discussion is that almost no one has seen it and all opinions are based on the sole idea that changing the ending is going to be awful (when it wasn't much before). From what I have read on these boards and others is that the first part is pretty much the same. So why is that so terrible. I for one will reserve any judgment or pre-judgment until I have actually seen it in around 64 more days.
Originally Posted By mousermerf Sorry Goofy, i've seen it. The ascent is mostly improve, some areas lack, but generally it's a plus. The descent does not share the same distinction. As much fun riding backwards in the dark looking at a screen sounds, it's really not and totally anticlimactic.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy Considering that the climax in the narrative of the attraction is at the top of the sphere, gazing into the heavens at Earth, I wouldn't expect the descent to be climactic as well.
Originally Posted By mousermerf How much do you want to rationalize things, when public opinion is clearly not in your favor, to protect this refurbishment you've not even seen?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I don't care to "protect" anything. I'm just inserting some reality in this discussion instead of all the hyperbole. And a few people on a Disney fansite doesn't represent public opinion.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I don't think any fansite represents public opinion. Fansites represent fan opinions. There's nothing particularly wrong with those opinions, but sometimes they seem reflect the mindset of not seeing the forest for the trees.
Originally Posted By mousermerf So it's not possible that SSE as it is currently presented is disliked by the general public?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I think it's quite possible that the previous version was disliked by the general public. I visited WDW in 2006 with a good friend who had never been to EPCOT. After SSE he commented to me that it was an interesting attraction, but opined that it was overly long and struggled to tell a story that really didn't need to be told. He's not a fan at all, so I thought the comments were interesting.
Originally Posted By mousermerf So a single person is more representative of the general public then hundreds of written opinions by various people in various communities?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy i've not counted hundreds of opinions. it seems like the same dozen or so people that are always opinionated on boards like this.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros This is slightly off topic, but I just realized that at the "climax" at the top of the dome, we can't possibly still be on earth, since we see it off in the distance. Yet there is some minimal theming (basic rock shapes, maybe a plant or two from what I remember) around us to imply we are on earth. Where exactly are we supposed to be, and how did we get there? Is this explained any better in the new version?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Where exactly are we supposed to be,>> Out in space. <<and how did we get there?>> Our time machine. <<Is this explained any better in the new version?>> It was explained just fine in the original version.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I don't believe adding cheesy animation with an interactive (extremely-limited at that) portion for five minutes is a good use of that space. It's not a good way to wrap up your voyage on SSE ... but it is classic Tom Fitzgerald.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I don't believe adding cheesy animation with an interactive (extremely-limited at that) portion for five minutes is a good use of that space. It's not a good way to wrap up your voyage on SSE ... but it is classic Tom Fitzgerald.>> So why do the myriad Horizon's worshipers always think it was such a wonderful way to wrap up that voyage?
