Originally Posted By dshyates I have seen several topics concerning cops and their tasers on these boards and there is always someone who says , "No Problems, the old blind lady deserved it' or some other justification. Well, deend this. <a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-taser_witt-web-jul19,0,2201847.story" target="_blank">http://www.chicagotribune.com/...47.story</a>
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Defend this.*** I'm sure someone will. I still think shocking an old blind woman was a bad thing, but many defended that as well (not to mention casually assuming that the police version of events had to be the correct one). ***They told me the next time he runs, 'You know we're going to shoot him.' "*** Thugs.
Originally Posted By dshyates So they tased the guy 9 times. Appearently the last 2 times he was either unconscience or dead. So they may have tased a dead guy twice for failing to comply. Not the they were unreasonable or anything.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Pikes was handcuffed by local police and shocked nine times with a Taser device, while reportedly pleading for mercy/// If true, can there be a more despicable cop story?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Well, everyone can feel real neato about calling the cops names, and if they deserve it they should and will be punished. But there's no way in hell this broad brushes all police officers, which is certainly the intent here in this thread.
Originally Posted By Mr X I agree. I think it very much depends on the location, but Passholder even you can't deny that there are some places (like this one, apparently) that are far more corrupt than others. I do believe that there NEEDS to be some attention paid to this taser outbreak though. Come on, how many of these stories do we need to hear before people finally wake up to the fact that SOME cops (for Passholder) need better training and understanding about how it is or is not appropriate or even necessary to use those things.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***they should and will be punished*** Some cops get away with stuff, Passholder. And some are vehemently protected by the system no matter what they do in some places (like here, apparently).
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Backwoods Louisiana is hardly the area to hold up as an example of corruption for any other part of practically anywhere else.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Moreover, why anyone would try and "deend this" or defend this is a mystery to me. The alleged "challenge" to do so here is as transparent as it gets.
Originally Posted By dshyates "But there's no way in hell this broad brushes all police officers," No it doesn't. I am a news photog, and I interview cops everyday. So I know MANY honorable cops. In the small town police (Beckley, WV), in the local County Sheriff's dept. and the WV State Troopers are the finest in the nation in my opinion. "which is certainly the intent here in this thread." Ummm, NO. What do you call 2 noids? "Well, everyone can feel real neato about calling the cops names" They frickin' tased a DEAD guy. TWICE. A DEAD guy they made a DEAD guy. Insert personal attack regarding SPP's intellect here.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Moreover, why anyone would try and "deend this" or defend this is a mystery to me. The alleged "challenge" to do so here is as transparent as it gets." OK, I made a typo, which I acknowledged and corrected way before your oh so clever response. Ohhhh, you are sooooo smart.
Originally Posted By dshyates " The alleged "challenge" to do so here is as transparent as it gets." It just that some here have defended the cops regardless of the facts. Your defensiveness now tells me you are at a loss as to how to defend their actions this time. Even though I sure you you would if it wasn't so obviously indefensible.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Backwoods Louisiana is hardly the area to hold up as an example of corruption for any other part of practically anywhere else." Oh, and by the way, I love you stereotyping of southerners and rural cops. I guess big city cops are all on the up and up. Oh wait, read this: <a href="http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=41128" target="_blank">http://www.thehighroad.org/sho...?t=41128</a>
Originally Posted By dshyates If you read the whole link I posted above you are familiar with Bruce Vanderjagt's killing. Here is how the then prosecuting attorney, Bill Ritter (now Governor) handled it: <a href="http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-6240592_ITM" target="_blank">http://www.accessmylibrary.com...0592_ITM</a>
Originally Posted By dshyates And just in case you think I hate cops, Chuckie Smith was a friend of mine. <a href="http://www.register-herald.com/local/local_story_241131950.html" target="_blank">http://www.register-herald.com...950.html</a> I just HATE bad cops. I had to interview Chuckie's Mom the day after he was killed. The toughest interview I ever had to do.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "They frickin' tased a DEAD guy. TWICE. A DEAD guy they made a DEAD guy. Insert personal attack regarding SPP's intellect here." Well, considering the intellect shown here on your part, no need to go any further with intelligent conversation. You've missed the point I was making completely, which is there was no defending this, so why would anyone want to try? You obviously wanted to fight in this thread, but you're not getting one from me. As for the sterotyping, you bet bet your sweet ass I was. Using bad behavior by jerkwater cops as a way of showing how all cops abuse tasers? Go away. And don't even start with me of all people about being friends with cops. So yes, bad cops with tasers=bad things happen. Point's been made.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Using bad behavior by jerkwater cops as a way of showing how all cops abuse tasers?" No one said that. And that is not what I was trying to prove. I have said that twice, three times now that I had to say it again. I am in no way trying to say that all cops abuse tasers. You keep trying to say that I want to paint ALL cops as taser happy. Where the hell are you getting that. I talk to many cops everyday that I know ARE NOT taser happy. As a matter of fact NONE of the cops I know are taser happy. So to clear things up, I am not saying ALL cops abuse tasers. How much clearer can I be? I am saying that given the "non-lethal" perception of tasers SOME cops may use them inappropriately, because they are percieved as non-lethal. Re-education through retraining with the devices may be needed. But your perception of cops in Southern rural areas is just plain wrong. Who's painting who with a broadstroke brush. Inappropraite use of force isn't strictly a "jerkwater" problem as I pointed out with my link to the problems they have had in Denver, CO. Unless you consider a metro area of 2.5 million people "jerkwater".
Originally Posted By vbdad55 question : does anyone believe the % of bad cops to the population of police is larger than the % of bad people in the general population ? my 2 cents is I don't think so at all....but the police population is a microcosm of society in general...
Originally Posted By Mr X ***does anyone believe the % of bad cops to the population of police is larger than the % of bad people in the general population ?*** Absolutely, I believe this. ***my 2 cents is I don't think so at all*** I would have to disagree with you. Consider this...WHY do people become cops? For the money? The glamor? To "help people"? Sure...some do for those reasons (or just for a paycheck that might be slightly higher than some other job like McDonalds, with not much more qualifications or educational background needed). But what is the APPEAL? I would submit that the appeal is in the power. And power corrupts. Why would anyone want to be a cop? Sure, SOME do it because it's noble, and they're helping people, and serving the community. Others do it just because it's a convenient job to take with stable benefits and not much chance of downsizing. Others (many others imho) take it because they can throw their weight around in some minor way day by day. Have any of you guys ever TALKED to cops or dealt with them? How many did you find to be nice, polite, kind individuals? I've met some polite, kind individuals. But far more folks who are full of themselves and enjoying their minor "Position of Power". And I'm just talking about speeding and traffic tickets here! ***the police population is a microcosm of society in general*** Meh. I don't think so.
