Originally Posted By DAR This article I think hits it on the head as to what's wrong with the NFL right now. <a href="http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/195760.html" target="_blank">http://www.kansascity.com/spor ts/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/195760.html</a>
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I have a lot of thoughts running through my head that I can't quite put into words, but in my mind, dogfighting is not far removed from boxing... I'd rather not see either tolerated or glorified.
Originally Posted By barboy I'm trying to understand your take trek, but with boxing the participants willfully engage in that activity whereas those dogs, cocks, praying mantises ect. have little choice.
Originally Posted By DAR For a long time now boxing has had the stigma of being associated with equally nefarious characters.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I must be the only one that can not understand what would ever posess someone to attend let alone bet money on dog fighting. I just don't get it. Not to mention the fact that its fiscally irresponcible.
Originally Posted By barboy "Not to mention the fact that its fiscally irresponcible." I see it as legally and morally/ethically irresponsible but how is it fiscally irresponsible? --- looks to me like anyone who is remotely dedicated in investing in those horrific rings would do quite well financially.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I'm trying to understand your take trek>> It's very simple. Yes, boxers are willing and the dogs or whatever are not, but I'm not speaking of it strickly from the participants point of view. Both activities are violent for the sake of violence... and people enjoy watching it. That doesn't quite sit with me.
Originally Posted By barboy Well the good news for you is that boxing---at least in the US-- is on the endangered species list and now dog fighting rings are in the spotlight and the state no longer views it as something trivial so look for far fewer episodes in the future.
Originally Posted By barboy And I agree trek about boxing. That sport is very violent and I want nothing to do with it--- just another reason why I don't go to Vegas. But for some reason I don't find karate, judo or martial arts bouts disturbing and I do watch them from time to time--- pretty inconsistent I know.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I'm not going to say that I haven't enjoyed some boxing, because I have. I think Olympic style boxing (and the martial arts) is mostly fine. Olympic style boxing, wrestling, etc. is more about the art and science; Professional boxing and so on is more about the brutality.
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast ITs not the "gangsta rap" tag so much as these athletes have a sense of entitlement. Ray Lewis of the Ravens was indicted for being involved in a murder but was pled down to only lying to investigaters,yet he still plays in the NFL.. ive said b4 its the illegal gambling charge the NFL is more concerned with in Vicks case.
