Originally Posted By HMButler79 Get your tickets now! Witness insane justifications while insulting us! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AO0bJKOODQw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...bJKOODQw</a> AND.... <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7w0LVL9WkM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...0LVL9WkM</a>
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Actually, the only one insulting us is you. I'm sorry but I find nothing wrong with "plusing" the attraction especially upgrading that particular Q. If you want "insane" justifications you need not look into anything new...figure out the justification for 999 Haunts in one mansion. This is all fantasy or one fantasy overlapping another, if you will. Sorry, but I'm not buying into this crap about how lame everything is and how they have desecrated the Haunted Mansion. Just ain't so!
Originally Posted By DlandDug Each time the OP has started one of these threads, folks have come in to say how much they like the changes and additions that have been made to the Mansion. Now the OP chooses to insult the talented Imagineers who have created these popular additions. Not cool, really.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: The nice thing about the whole situation is that you have a choice as to whether or not you wish to participate in the interactive queue. There are two separate lines. So, after all is said and done, this interactive queue situation is a win-win for all.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS <...figure out the justification for 999 Haunts > I am not on trial here!!
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS We will be arriving at WDW this friday and plan to partake in the new queue. I am looking forward to forming my own opinion, thank you very much.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Haven't watched the videos, but I do loath the new queue. The new Hitchhiking Ghosts are great, but the new queue is a noisy mess.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""the talented Imagineers who have created these popular additions"" How talented to add tributes....OF TRIBUTES. The Poetess Ghost... SO witty! Gurgling singing sea captain so .CUTE! DEAD KIDS! The Bride's Ring..AGAIN! (Even though it was taken OUT in '07), etc etc etc. WHATEVER Dug, you know they're hacks so cease this delusion. Oh yea and Michael Sprout brought you the erudite-ness that was the SSE Script and ending. SO MUCH TALENT on the East Coast!
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>...you know they're hacks so cease this delusion.<< The only delusion here is with the person who persists in insisting that even the people who clearly don't agree with their opinion, agree with their opinion.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The nice thing about the whole situation is that you have a choice as to whether or not you wish to participate in the interactive queue." I agree. That was a very wise thing to do.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 waste of a thread - people have the option to bypass if they don't like. Many people do like it however. It doesn't take up space where anything else would go -
Originally Posted By ChiMike You know, I will say this. With all the nostalgia dished up this weekend, the one thing that sits with me is that mostly everything that use to be designed and installed at WDW had a warmth about it. Even when the intended result was to be cool or stark, there was an underlying comfort to everything that was implemented. There was a charm to it all. Recent attempts, even at reimagineering or modernization, comes off as very cold, very generic. Kind of like what was occurring with Disneyland when it was run by a bunch of retailers. This graveyard is a perfect example. The old one was a nice diversion, a nice gag. While it was intended to be a graveyard, the tongue in cheek nature of it, offered a warmth, or a self-effacing wink to the guest. It carried out its purpose for what it was, and I think delivered on both a a very quick and causal level, as well as on an intense geek-dom level if one was aware of the connections to the inside graveyard show scene and its designers. My complaint/observation is not tied into past concerns raised, like the shifting of the "story" or the cartoonish nature of the addition. It is more that the overall design comes off as cold. As if a toy company designed something that could be purchased and collected in pieces on a Toys R Us aisle. The design tries too hard, especially in relation to what it replaced, and in doing so comes off as superficial and not rooted in the overall charm of the park. (or what's left of the charm of the park) So, I guess that is my beef with a lot of these additions. They are either cheap and not well thought out like the Pooh queue, they are cold and out of tone like the SM and HM queues, or they simply clash with the authentic charm of the park. Now before someone says that I am just not wanting things I liked change, here is one more case. Hopefully I am wrong. Goofy's Barnstormer. I never really cared for this addition. I thought its installation violated the design rules the park itself setup for itself. Maintenance shed in clear public view, steel and footers exposed, etc. However, I would not have ever denied that the designers did justice to Goofy, and the weak attempt at a Toontown. That while it was functionally misplaced, the queue and station had a lot of inherit warmth to it. The chickens activating upon the coaster's entry into the barn, the ceiling fans in the station, and on and on. These elements belonged in a toontown and they certainly were a step up from the typical Vekoma installation. I didn't like it, but even so, I would never be able to argue that the experience was "cold" to families of guests. The reason I bring this up is because I try to keep my own opinions away from what I believe to be good and bad at MK. I didn't like Barnstormer, but it there were things present with it that were harmonious to the MK. My worry, like the HM graveyard, is that the current screwballs at WDI can no longer deliver warmth, the can no longer deliver charm, so something I didn't even like in the past might be made worse. We shall see, but something tells me, based on recent efforts, that the Goofini installation will be a little more cold, a little more rigid, a little less successful in how it interacts with the rest of the MK. The style coming out of these folks just does not seem to be harmonious with the style that originated from the early WED designers.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>waste of a thread - people have the option to bypass if they don't like. Many people do like it however. It doesn't take up space where anything else would go -<< That's wholly incorrect. It takes up space of what was a very scenic and pleasing to the eye waterfront with some beautiful, fitting trees. The look from the riverboat and/or TSI was far more realistic of a mansion on the hill without it. Sometimes less is more.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I am in total agreement with you in post 12 ChiMike. I haven't seen the new HM queue in person, but what you say jives with what I've seen in pictures and videos.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 So the original poster is apologizing for his behavior? Or he wants us to apologize?
Originally Posted By leobloom Very interesting the people who were selected for this tour. From the videos it appears to be the usual blogosphere suspects. How I wish the social media thread had a pulse...
Originally Posted By Manfried <<The only delusion here is with the person who persists in insisting that even the people who clearly don't agree with their opinion, agree with their opinion.>> The person starting this post feels they have to keep hammering away at any change, any change at all. Bravo Dug.
