The Lion King BD "Cloud" error. Replacement Disc?

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    Originally Posted By The-Iceflash

    I'm not sure if this has been brought to anyone's attention but there is an error on the Lion King Blu-ray. At the point where Simba is supposed to be running after the clouds after Mufasa speaks to him, the clouds aren't there. They're missing. It appears to be an error. I'm not sure if Disney is aware of it.

    Here's the error:

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWiRPAb8KNw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...RPAb8KNw</a>


    Is a Replacement Disc planned?
     
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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    Actually, the clouds contract didn't allow their use in future releases, so Disney had to edit them out.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I'd guess it was done on purpose because of the controversy surrounding that notorious cloud.

    The effects department hid the letters "SFX" in the cloud, and some folks thought it waid something else.

    Just a guess, though.
     
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    Originally Posted By Bellella

    WTH?!!! That is the most unsubtle change I've ever seen!!! I am so glad my Lion King DVD doesn't have that change. But then again, it was a first edition, and a bootleg (fyi, not my fault. Bought it online.) I can understand how a certain little scene in "The Little Mermaid" would be objectionable (and thus, edited out of my Mermaid DVD), but those who never knew about it won't miss what isn't there now. But those clouds are a big effect in "The Lion King" and certainly something to miss when unsubtly removed. And why?
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I thought that the infamous SFX cloud was at another point in the move, where Simba was standing on a cliff, and laid down, causing some dust to float up in the air; as the wind blew it to Rafiki, it supposedly spelled it out. I've never actually been able to make out any letters at either location, so I don't really know.

    As for the least subtle edit, Belella, you should check out the Pastoal Symphony in Fantasia, where they not-so-carefully edited out the black centaurette by zooming way in on the other ones, causing the film to get extremely grainy for a couple seconds. Or Make Mine Music, where they cut an entire segment from the DVD release. Or countless other changes through the years. Heck, Disney's done their best to edit all of Song of the South out of the public's memory, despite it being the basis for a major attraction in both US resorts. At least they were able to digitally remove the clouds in this one (for whatever reason they were removed), so they didn't have to crop the image or cut the scene's length.
     
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    Originally Posted By Liberty Belle

    Yeah, the "SFX" letters were at a different point in the movie. There doesn't seem to be any logical reason for this edit as far as I can see...
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I'm sure you are both correct; I was only guessing without seeing the Blu-Ray version in question.

    Glad I didn't buy it.

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    Originally Posted By Bellella

    Like I said, FerretAfros, those who don't know about the edits won't miss what they never knew. I know about the edits in "Fantasia", "Make Mine Music" and "Melody Time", but I feel they were justified. Especially the infamous "Martins and the Coys." But I see no reason to edit out the clouds in "Lion King" just because some viewers "thought" they saw something.

    Same thing in the cartoon "Clock Cleaners." Donald shouts "Says you!" not what some others may think. As a result, I am unable to find a complete version of the original cartoon.

    "Song of the South." A film that needs to be seen to be understood, although I understand the controversy somewhat.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    I've seen the Martins and the Coys, and if the "infamy" is that the characters blast each other in a comic way, then it's no worse than a thousand Bugs Bunny shorts, IMHO.

    And although I personally think that tobacco ought to be illegal, I shudder to think of a future in which every smoking reference is erased out of every cartoon.

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    Originally Posted By The-Iceflash

    This doesn't seem to be a conscious edit but an error or mistake.
     
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    Originally Posted By basil fan

    Hard to understand how an error like this could be made. Though I don't know much about the technical side of creating these discs.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    Digital rendering error, most likely.
     

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