Originally Posted By Mr X ...the fact that she either doesn't understand or doesn't care about the separation of powers. "I'm thankful the Constitution would allow a bit more authority given to the vice president if that vice president so chose to exert it in working with the Senate and making sure that we are supportive of the president's policies and making sure too that our president understands what our strengths are." This outrageous statement just scares the crap out of me. Clearly she either hasn't read, doesn't agree with or doesn't understand the constitution at all as it pertains to the role of the Vice-President! So, what's YOUR "most frightening things about Palin"?
Originally Posted By SuperDry The last VP that wanted to take a more active role as President of the Senate was Dan Quayle, and that went over like a lead balloon in the Senate. I wonder if anyone got a comment from Senator Byrd on that idea?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<This outrageous statement just scares the crap out of me>> Certainly you can't believe she had any idea what she was talking about... The most frightening thing about Palin is her hairstyle. That will still be around even after she loses the election.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney She's corrupt. I know, a lot of politicians are corrupt, but do we ususally find out BEFORE we elect them to the second highest office in the country? -- "She charged taxpayers a per diem totaling nearly $17,000 for 312 nights spent in her own home." "When confronted by a Wasilla city council member who raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council, Sarah Palin said, "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't."" She's trying to use her power to keep herself from trouble over the firing of the state trooper. We've had enough corruption in office the last 8 years.
Originally Posted By queenbee She's manipulative at the least. According to factcheck the book banning situation was some sort of bizare loyalty test. Palin asked the librarian, what she would do if ordered to remove certain books from the shelf. Palin defended the question as a test of loyalty. Creepy.
Originally Posted By chickendumpling <<This outrageous statement just scares the crap out of me.>> Thank you. For a while there it was just me and Chris Matthews. Politics makes for strange bedfellows I'll say that for sure! LOL. <<Clearly she either hasn't read, doesn't agree with or doesn't understand the constitution at all as it pertains to the role of the Vice-President!>> She understands! Man, seems like I've said that somewhere before. LOL. <<Certainly you can't believe she had any idea what she was talking about...>> Trippy, she's punking X all over the place and he just doesn't even realize it yet. But then again, if YOU vote for her maybe X isn't the one getting punked....
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Not sure I believe that though. I've read she spoke with the librarian 2 to 3 times about banning books. And didn't the librarian get let go because Palin felt she didn't have the librarians "full support", then rehired after an uproar in the community?
Originally Posted By queenbee Yes, that was the story. I just thought Palin's own explanation, whether true or not, was manipulative.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<This outrageous statement just scares the crap out of me>> <Certainly you can't believe she had any idea what she was talking about...> It's very possible she didn't. But it's amazing that the best defense for one's candidate (at least in this situation) is "she doesn't have any idea what she's talking about." (!!) <Sarah Palin said, "I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.""> I haven't seen that quote before. And to be fair, it's a quote from a guy (described in the Salon article it seems to have originated from as her "estranged former mentor") who says she said it, rather than a direct quote from her. But if she did indeed say it, or something like it, THAT's a scary quote, because it's the exact attitude we've seen with Bush and Cheney and their disregard for the law, almost daring someone to try and stop them, and then ignoring subpoenas when they come (which, of course, Palin has done too by instructing her staff and husband to do so). It also brings to mind Nixon's famous saying that "it's not illegal if the president does it." That's perhaps the ultimate example of NOT maverick, NOT shaking things up, but exactly more of the same as we've had under Bush. No thanks.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< It also brings to mind Nixon's famous saying that "it's not illegal if the president does it." >>> I was at the cinema the other night. They had a trailer for Oliver Stone's upcoming W, followed by the movie about Nixon. They had the above quote from Nixon in that trailer, and I couldn't help myself from commenting "Was that Nixon, or W?" <<< That's perhaps the ultimate example of NOT maverick, NOT shaking things up, but exactly more of the same as we've had under Bush. No thanks. >>> Indeed.
Originally Posted By chickendumpling <<It's very possible she didn't. But it's amazing that the best defense for one's candidate (at least in this situation) is "she doesn't have any idea what she's talking about." (!!)>> No joke! What an embarrassment. Some of my friends are soooo peeved at McCain right now. They've decided not to vote at all rather than take a chance on this ticket.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Some of my friends are soooo peeved at McCain right now. They've decided not to vote at all rather than take a chance on this ticket. >>> I think you need to tell them that that's a very wise thing to do.
Originally Posted By barboy ///But if she did indeed say it, or something like it, THAT's a scary quote, because it's the exact attitude we've seen with Bush and Cheney and their disregard for the law, almost daring someone to try and stop them,/// You know that $20 bill in your wallet shows an ex president whose audacity and unbridled power mongering would put Bush + Co. and certainly Palin to shame.
Originally Posted By Mr X Wise to not vote at all? I would think it wiser to vote for the opposition, no?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>You know that $20 bill in your wallet shows an ex president whose audacity and unbridled power mongering would put Bush + Co. and certainly Palin to shame.<< That WHAT in my wallet?
Originally Posted By chickendumpling <<I think you need to tell them that that's a very wise thing to do.>> Yeah, but it's a very sad statement for this country. <<I would think it wiser to vote for the opposition, no?>> "True" conservatives could never stomach doing that. Lots of conservatives could barely stomach McCain in the first place because he's too liberal.
Originally Posted By barboy ///I do know that about Jackson, but that hardly excuses Bush./// Right, in no way is Bush or Palin off the hook just because a previous president was far more audacious and bold. Remember the 'Trail of Tears' episode..... Jackson defied, yes outright disregarded a Supreme Ct. decision that Indians have a right to Georgia land in 1832. Jackson basically said that they(the Supremes) made their ruling now let's see them try to enforce it. Not even Tricky Dick Nixon was so bold.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yes, Jackson is often quoted as having said "John Marshall has made his decision; now let's see him enforce it!" It may be an apocryphal quote, but it certainly describes his attitude. Quite similar to Palin (if she said this), Bush, and certainly Cheney.
