Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Anyone think today's developments in the UK are going to have negative ramifications on WDW attendance? Or is this just a blip? Opinions ...
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I think that since the terrorists were caught before any damage was done that people won't stop their holiday plans. It will make flying in the immediate future a real hassle, though.
Originally Posted By ChiMike blip. But futhers my paranoia and irrational thoughts towards air travel. j/k - - -- - - kinda >paranoid shift of eyes<
Originally Posted By a1stav I think that we will see a downturn in flights for a number of months. This happens at the same time that Disney raises prices, not a good combo IMO. I suspect that we may start seeing some specials come up to increase business. BTW I leave for Orlando on Monday, I hope things will move smoothly.
Originally Posted By Chelledun ^^^I do wonder if they are regretting the price raise at this moment. It isn't going to stop my travel in October, or my vacation to Washington D.C. this week for that matter.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Blip... if that. People have gotten used to the fact that although stuff happens (London and Madrid subway/train bombings), the chance of a terrorist act actually impacting them has less odds of happening than being killed by lightening. People will learn to CHECK their luggage like they used to and all will be good.
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Originally Posted By ChiMike >>People will learn to CHECK their luggage like they used to and all will be good.<< I agree
Originally Posted By pbjshakelover Terrorists or raising ticket prices will not impact my time with my sister (& my pal, Mickey) this November. I'll enjoy my life knowing I am not here forever. Whether I leave this earth because of a direct result of terrorist activity, or other means, my fate is my fate. As far as ticket prices, I'll work additional jobs as needed to be in my "happy" place. Admittedly, it gets more challenging every year, but it's worth it!
Originally Posted By goofy5-22 It will not effect my weekend long getaway in September, but it really becomes more clear that I have no desire to leave the country, I'll just jump countries over at EPCOT. I do beleive less people will be booking, in the near future. Hopfully Disney will throw out some great deals and maybe I'll go two more times this year.
Originally Posted By Skylardad I'm going with a blip rating. If the media continues to pound the story into the ground for the next week or more (which is likely it could have some effect. Anderson Cooper, tonight, was rattling off the liquid substances that are banned and included yogurt which prompted him to ask "Is the banning of yogurt going to keep us from flying?" It seems that the media is already looking for silly questions to pose so they can pound this story into the ground. For the Orlando tourism, if this current news was going to happen at any time, the timing coincides with the areas normal downward trend for the end of summer and early fall. I think the airline industry in general is going to suffer more with this develope,ent and the new restrictions and inconveniences at the airports. Since business at the theme parks is heading into the off-season I don't think WDW is regretting its price increase despite the news event of today. If anything, they are probably glad they did. If they experience any kind of residual effect from this news at least they are getting a bit more per guest. Bottom line is if people really want to go to WDW they will find a way. But I am sure there are those who do require air travel who may re-think their vacation options.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think we will see a down turn in the short term. I have to admit I am a little nervous for our trip from the UK in November, but not from the threat of terrorism. More because we are taking a baby and a toddler, and the hand luggage ban is going to make life difficult. I hope things settle down before then. Rather be safe than sorry though. It's just I'll look like the pacifier with baby bottles strapped to me!
Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror It might have been of more concern if they'd built that Israel pavillion at Epcot. A survey was done, just recently in Great Britain, of British Muslims. 37%, or about half a million, approved of the idea of suicide bombings against British Jews. That's just in the general population. No shortage of crazies out there, and while I wish Disney HAD built an "Israel" pavillion - it would have been so cool and lovely - Epcot is probably less of a target with it not being there.
Originally Posted By danyoung I'd think there will be more of an impact with international travel than with travel inside the U.S. There's a reason that this plot originated in England, I'm guessing. It would be harder to pull this off within the borders of this country. I'm saying blip.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 you really think so ? The British police have more liberty to enter homes there on searches than do the police here - they can go on suspicion, here you have to have reasonable cause to get a warrant.. I am not seeing how just based on what we know so far this would have been harder to pull off here...the culprits there are 2nd generation British -- just like we have many of the same here..sort of pure racial profiling.. they would not have been high on a suspect list here either. Yes the use of NSA played a role in capturing phone calls in the terror plot -- but the ACLU and some are afraid they are infringing on our civil liberties you know - and NSA and the patriot act could be gone one day...we'll be less safe but we won't run the risk if having our liberties 'trampled' on andbecome a police state like the UK- according to one Civil Liberties attorney on TV last night.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "we'll be less safe but we won't run the risk if having our liberties 'trampled' on andbecome a police state like the UK- according to one Civil Liberties attorney on TV last night." I do have to say living here, it does seem like it is a police state. I remember having the services around when Sarah was 8 months pregnant and I had a slipped disk. Neither of us picked up the dog mess in our back yard for a couple of weeks (we physically couldn't) and we received a caution. Also, a 3 year old down the street was given a court order for being a nuisance playing ball!!!! There are a lot of great things about Britain, but it is not entirely free. Also, I resent having to pay $22 per month for a TV licence for the BBC. Even if I do not watch the BBC, I have to pay for it. Anyone that has equipment that receives TV signals have to. On top of all the taxes. But I love the lower crime rate and 25 days vacation time a year. Also, the NHS is pretty fab too.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>But I love the lower crime rate<< This reminds me of a funny anecdote: My wife's brother is married to an Englishwoman and the live stateside (Indiana). Her parents would not come to visit because they were afraid they would get shot at by hoodlums. Eventually they were persuaded to come and were relived to see that there weren't any gun fights to be found nearby. My understanding of the differences in crime between the UK (and Europe in general) and the US is that you are more likely to be victim of non-violent crime in Europe (i.e. burglaries) and more likely to be a victim of violent crime in the US. My employer has a subsidiary in Barcelona which I had to opportunity to visit once. All the ex-pats that worked there (most were on 1-3 year stints) told me that they had been burglarized at least once.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think this all comes from gun related activity and the corperal punishment. If someone is going to commit a crime in the US, they will make it worth their while. Also, burglaries may be less for fear of being shot at. Crime in the Uk does tend to be far less violent. I prefer this model. I can replace things, but not my family. BTW - I think I can honestly talk about this having lived both sides of the water.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I think we are all going to see more people driving to Disney. Especially those of us who are within a 8 hour drive. It remains to be seen if people will be flying less. It does set the stage for fewer flights and planes that can carry more people ie Airbus. I also blame the airport industry. Airports for years have been more and more mall like. When in reality they need to be more like "Check Point Charlie".
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Crime in the Uk does tend to be far less violent. I prefer this model. I can replace things, but not my family.<< It depends on where you live. I have lived in Northen Colorado for 11 years, and do not recall anyone being shot by a mugger in our town. There is violent crime in Denver, but it tends to be on the "wrong side of tracks", usually involving a drug deal gone bad. What struck me about Barcelona was the sense of inevitability that your house would be burgled multiple times and that you couldn't leave an old pair of sneakers locked in the trunk of your car. Since I have never been the victime of any sort of crime (unless you count the price of a coke of the movies) it seemed outrageous to me.
