Originally Posted By princesspaulina After watching the wonderful reporting on this site about TSM, I must say, I am not getting excited about this attraction. The building, load area looks kinda blah, the ride cars look way too much C-Ticket "Buzz Lightyear" like and and the description of the ride sounds not too exciting (at least the 40 something lady describing it didnt, in my opinion, "sell" the ride). The 3-d and the ride invention better kick butt or they may have another Flick Faire reject on their hands. I feel that TSM was built to try and kick Superman at Islands of Adventures butt, however, I am not feeling that buzz. The ride doesn't seem big enough, feels a bit forced, retro-fitted into that small area on Paradise Pier (I also feel being on PP cheapens the ride a tad). Of course, Ill be there when they allow AP's to ride and will give my final verdict, however, Im just not feeling the excitement of say an Indiana Jones, Star Tours, Expedition Everest. Thoughts?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm sorry that the ride building doesn't impress you any, but from the sounds of it, it may be because your standards aren't entirely realistic. That building (at least the part that you see inside the park) is amazing! It has the same level of detail that is found on Main Street. It's the most detailed building IMO in all of DCA. Yes, it does look a little out of place in Paradise Pier right now, but they are working on that too. There are plans to do major cosmetic work all over the entire park, and PP is scheduled to begin the rest of its work after the summer crowds leave this year, if not sooner in places. I never got the feeling that this was supposed to be related to Spiderman at all, since there is very little in common with the two. Sure, they both use 3D projections while on a moving vehicle, but that's about the extent of it. Spiderman tries to make you feel like you're a part of the comics, and TSMM will try to make you feel like you're playing larger than life midway games. If that doesn't fit into the theme of the Pier (with the slight exception of the Toy Story theme overlay on an otherwise logical attraction choice) I really don't know what would.
Originally Posted By princesspaulina -I'm sorry that the ride building doesn't impress you any, but from the sounds of it, it may be because your standards aren't entirely realistic. Is this realism based on your barometer of expectations? BTW, you see the unload area? the cue? Looks like a baron werehouse to me (or, like the Screamin' cue) -I never got the feeling that this was supposed to be related to Spiderman at all, since there is very little in common with the two. Sure, they both use 3D projections while on a moving vehicle, but that's about the extent of it. Really? You dont find that 2 rides using similar 3-d technology in an emmersive ride experiecne to have little in common? Fascinating.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Do you think that Splash Mountain and Winnie the Pooh are very similar? They both use blacklights to illuminate the sets and characters, but both have a very different way about doing just about everything else, from vehicles to pacing to set and character design, yet they sit right next to each other. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they used Spiderman to get them thinking about an attraction that uses 3D, but I don't think that this is Disney's answer to Spiderman. I see Spiderman as Universal's answer to Indy, and-to me at least-Disney's still waiting for them to the same level as Indy. I don't think that this is supposed to be a huge draw like Screamin or Tower of Terror, but I also don't see this being as minor as Monsters Inc. For me, it looks like it will be somewhere in between. It may not be the whole reason that people plan a vacation to DL, but it will certainly be on their must-see list while they're there. "Looks like a baron werehouse to me (or, like the Screamin' cue)" It doesn't look any worse to me than any of the Fantasyland darkrides, which all have a similar quasi-outdoor situation. They are very open and airy, but still have theming on the ceiling and support columns. Then, on the other side of the track, there's a big mural that tells us something about the attraction. In this case, it's where they try to shoehorn that stupid backstory of Andy's room. For being a structure that really only has a floor and ceiling that's themed to look like what it is (just like in Fantasyland), I'd say they did a darn good job.
Originally Posted By princesspaulina -Do you think that Splash Mountain and Winnie the Pooh are very similar? They both use blacklights to illuminate the sets and characters, but both have a very different way about doing just about everything else, from vehicles to pacing to set and character design, yet they sit right next to each other. Poor example. Black lights are minor elements to enhance the attraction. Computer Projected 3-d is the star of the show, in both Spider Man and Toy Story Mania. -It doesn't look any worse to me than any of the Fantasyland darkrides, which all have a similar quasi-outdoor situation. Hey, we agree! Fantasyland rides were too C-Ticket Attractions! hence, TSM cue = C-Ticket Ride cues! Sad that DCA not getting an E-Ticket! Thanks for making my point even more clear!
Originally Posted By Park Hopper I could be wrong about this, but I don't think TSM was ever meant to be an E ticket. So, I think you are right. DCA is not getting an E-ticket. However, I do like the exterior of the show building. It far surpasses anything else currently on Paradise Pier--and possibly in the whole park. And it is perfectly fitting for a C to D ticket attraction.
Originally Posted By princesspaulina Great. DCA desperately needs an E and we settle for a C. Also, comparing a new building to other Paradise Pier surroundings is like comparing a Ford Escort to a Yugo.
Originally Posted By kennect paulina, Do you know the difference in Spiderman and Superman since you refer to one in your initial post incorrectly...You should have gotten that right to continue...First time poster just trying to create trouble here....Give it up....
Originally Posted By jonvn Based on what it is, I would not call it a C. It's probably what would have been a D ticket, like Buzz is.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Kind of funny, the original poster wants to criticize but doesn't even get the name of the ride correct in the first post. It's Spiderman, not Superman... Get your facts right before going on a rant, it helps your credibility...
Originally Posted By princesspaulina -paulina, Do you know the difference in Spiderman and Superman since you refer to one in your initial post incorrectly...You should have gotten that right to continue...First time poster just trying to create trouble here....Give it up.... Kennect, did you not read post 3, which corrected this? However, I would guess 99.99% of this board knew what I mean when I said Superman. -Based on what it is, I would not call it a C. It's probably what would have been a D ticket, like Buzz is. Buzz is easily a C-Ticket ride, no more. -Oh WIlliam, post 10...another one who simply use common sense!
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Have you been on the ride yet? Usually you need to experience a ride before you decide what exactly the ride is... So what is the normal account you post under? You are so obviously a troll it's not even funny.
Originally Posted By kennect Yeah, I read all of these posts...And you still got it wrong in the first one...
Originally Posted By bartholomewneff princesspaulina said: Great. DCA desperately needs an E and we settle for a C. Also, comparing a new building to other Paradise Pier surroundings is like comparing a Ford Escort to a Yugo. Midway Mania is not a C ticket. It's a plussed D ticket and one that's priced around 80 million dollars. That's a nice D ticket. The Monster ride was a C ticket and it cost 30 million. The ride will be nice, inventive, especially come the holidays, and people will really see the beginning of the new park. One which has actual Disney rides.
Originally Posted By princesspaulina -Have you been on the ride yet? Hmmm. As you can read, my posts are clearly about the poor looking building and cue line. Not a good sign of things to come. -Midway Mania is not a C ticket. It's a plussed D ticket and one that's priced around 80 million dollars. HOw do you know this? Do you have a budget? Show me for a fact that you know TSM is $80 million? A blind guess, I am sure!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "As you can read, my posts are clearly about the poor looking building and cue line. Not a good sign of things to come." Don't read a book by it's cover. As I think I've already stated, the building is far more than adequate for hosting the attraction and is one of the most detailed buildings that Disney's ever created. It's probably the most detailed building at DL since Splash Mountain. If that's not enough for you, then I'd really like to know what is. "A blind guess, I am sure!" That's the number that's been thrown around in various blogs and newspaper (yes, ones printed daily on real paper) articles for quite a while now. It also seems to be inline with the price of other recent additions like the $30 million for Pooh and $120+ million reported for Nemo. Everything that I've heard about it so far would make me put it in the D-ticket category. They don't seem to be marketing it as a huge ginormous fix the park in one swoop kind of thing. They seem to realize that it's scope isn't quite that broad (perhaps because of capacity, anybody know what it's supposed to be like?), but it should still be quite a sight to see once it's up and running.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt I like Princesspaulina. She (or he) is livening things up around here. LOL.
Originally Posted By jdub How nitpicky do we care to get? We could pick on the spelling "baron building," which in actuality would refer to some structure where one might find quasi royals; We could pick on the fact "Spiderman" is also incorrect (look it up); And we could pick on the fact that California Adventure will NEVER have any "E Ticket rides"--at least not if we're lucky--as this is the 00s, and not the 70s. Pick long enough, let's see what we dig out!
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Originally Posted By mawnck >>I like Princesspaulina. She (or he) is livening things up around here. LOL.<< I just wish LPers were a little better at figuring out these things and dealing with them, rather than taking the bait again and again and again and again and again ...
