Originally Posted By mousermerf From the lips of those who know DLR horticulture: <a href="http://www.mouseinfo.com/forums/dca-expansion/85492-world-color-176.html" target="_blank">http://www.mouseinfo.com/forum...176.html</a> (post #1757) Now.. not to be -too- cocky.. but who said the trellis shouldn't be there? A long time ago..? *points at self*
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Big whoop. The only question I have is why are they being removed, especially since that area is rather barren when it comes to shade.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I also question why they're leaving. Yah, they do block a little bit of the sightlines, but not a huge portion. The big boxes that contain the lighting rigs will block just as much of a view, as they stick out of the ground several feet. While the new park is certainly more charming than the original, it's still pretty bleak and the trellises are one of the few things that give it any personality. The real question is why are they deciding to remove them now? They had them built and waiting behind the fences for about a month, but now that the area's been opened to guests for a week they decide that they need to go back and take them out? That's the part that really doesn't make sense.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I imagine that the trellises (trelli?) block sightlines for the "World of Color" show?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would imagine they could have figured that out long before they built them. Or after they built them, they could have figured it out before they took the walls down. It's just really strange to me that they opened that area up to the public, and they're already going back to make changes to it because it doesn't work, yet this is a problem that could have easily been figured out using computer renderings that are quite easy to make. Just strange...
Originally Posted By mousermerf <<<I would imagine they could have figured that out long before they built them.>>> I said that, but no one listens to me.
Originally Posted By Hista98 ill admit when i first saw the trelisis i was confused as i was like wouldn't those bloack the sightlines, plus with only two kind of stuck in randomly it seems wierd to have them at all, as they aren't that big and only a few people could get shade at a time causing people to stop under them and have traffic jams.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <I would imagine they could have figured that out long before they built them. > Three words -- Mal-i-boomer.
Originally Posted By mousermerf I think there should just be a big sticky note put up in Imagineering saying: "If you build anything entirely out of metal in DCA, you're going to be asked to tear it down." And perhaps that will start to dissuade those "scientists."
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Ummmm Mousermerf, I believe it was me who first posted a pic of them, asking what they were and then when everyone said they were trellises I said won't they get in my way of seeing, blah, blah, blah. Besides why are we believing anything that the writer of post number 1757 says?
Originally Posted By tonyanton I'm guessing umbrellas will be brought in during the day for the benches and to provide needed shade; and once night/showtime approaches, the benches/umbrellas can easily be removed.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<The only question I have is why are they being removed, especially since that area is rather barren when it comes to shade.>> You just answered your own question. Once the vines grow over the trellis frames, the WoC viewers standing behind them on the upper terrace level won't be able to see the show. Right now, it's not a problem because the frames are nothing but lanterns and bare metal. But when the plants grow up and over the frames, it will be a huge sightline obstruction.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt If you stand in front/underneath them. The problem is that WoC only runs on a limited basis and never during the day. Thus, most of the year the park will be used for other purposes (stage shows, guest relaxation, interactive fountain, etc.). Removing them isn't a major deal for me, but it does seem rather short sighted considering that this area serves multiple purposes.
Originally Posted By mousermerf That area was built for the show - and they block the tiers behind them. Someone miscalculated the angle or something, but if you look at photos from the upper-tiers it's obvious that the trellis blocks the ability to see the show.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Yup. Someone miscalculated how many WoC viewers will be affected, once the foliage fills in. Anyone standing under a trellis or behind it on the upper terrace will be prevented from seeing anything in the lagoon. And this show will have limited viewing capacity enough as it is, without the added obstruction from the trellis vines.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "That area was built for the show" Um.... mousemerf you seem to forget that that area has been there since DCA opened. It was a park before and it's a park now. Most of the time DCA is operating WoC won't be operating, therefore some consideration ought to be given to the various functions that the area will serve. One of the biggest complaints around here when DCA opened was that there wasn't enough shade.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 But anything that can provide shade, unless portable, will also serve as a view blocker for WOC. (Unless, I guess, it's really, really high.)
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Here's an aerial view of the site. Note that the trellises are minuscule in comparison with the overall area. I get that the view might be obstructed in and around them, but it seems that their footprint is so small that with all the spots around the lagoon it wouldn't be that big of a deal. <a href="http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_image.php?update_dir=2010_04_16&page_id=40&num_image=2" target="_blank">http://www.disneygeek.com/upda..._image=2</a> On another note, does anyone have the skinny on the new configuration of the parade route. Disneygeek is reporting that the pathway between ToT and Bugs land is being removed and parades will start at ToT soon. <a href="http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_image.php?update_dir=2010_04_16&page_id=142&num_image=1" target="_blank">http://www.disneygeek.com/upda..._image=1</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Looking at that aerial photo... there are a couple dozen or so people in the park to give you perspective, and all I can think is: they're going to put 7,000 people in that space? That's really going to be cheek by jowl. I guess no different than Fantasmic or hub for fireworks, but still. Will the semi-circle closest to the water (what looks like wooden planks) be used for viewing also? That would help some, but that's going to be one solid mass of humanity in any event.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt You're right. I'm guessing, but in addition to the wooden plank area in front, I would assume that a good portion of the parade route will be cordoned off for viewing as well.
