UP is Disney/ Pixar’s first DUD

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    Originally Posted By dsjohnson1

    Normally I enjoy and really enjoy some Disney and Disney/ Pixar animated films; although I feel that UP is Disney/ Pixar’s first BIG DUD. I was VERY disappointed in the story and the characters in the film.

    Due to the high amount of graphic violence and other types of violence, in my opinion this is not a Walt Disney Company family film. There is actually animated human/ character blood in this Pixar film.

    This film is rated PG and in my opinion it should be rated PG-13.

    You can not even compare this movie to the quality of the Toy Story films, A Bug’s Life, Monsters, Inc., Finding Nemo and Ratatouille. This is not your normal Disney/ Pixar film and it is not on my recommended film list.
     
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    Originally Posted By FerretAfros

    I understand where you come from, but I have to disagree. I thought that Up was far less violent than The Incredibles, and handled the violence in a much more serious manner. They never look forward to the violence but do it because it is the only option to defeat the villain, who clearly has a few screws loose.

    For the blood, I thought it was handled very well. As soon as Carl realized what he did, he was physically sorry and scared of the consequences. He acted through emotion and realized very quickly that he made a mistake. The crowd also acted as though they were afraid, but understood that it was a mistake. I believe that at one point, Mr Incredible wipes some blood off of his lip, so it's not the first Pixar has shown blood.

    There are a lot more serious tones in Up than the other movies, and it's not afraid to make you feel uncomfortable. The contrast of the happiness of Carl and Ellie painting the nursery followed by the sadness in the doctor's office is a great way to get the emotion across without going into detail, and letting people come to a conclusion that they're comfortable with.

    In a way, it really reminds me of the classic Disney movies. You can't have a happy ending if the entire movie is happy. You need a contrast. Snow White and Pinnochio are very dark and have a lot of scary moments. Up isn't afraid to make you uncomfortable with what the characters have to deal with, but it does make the ending that much more rewarding, because you get the impact of how much the characters believe in it.

    From a character standpoint, I think that these are some of Pixar's best. It's hard to place it against the others because it has so many little scenes in it that make up the whole thing, but I think it is easily in Pixar's top 3, if not best one yet. I'm in no way advocating violence, but it just works to make the resolution that much stronger when you see how hard they had to work to get there.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    While the PG rating might bug you, and the story and characters not work for you -- you're in a fairly small minority who think 'UP' in a dud.

    But rock on, my man.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Or Woman.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Rotten Tomatoes currently as 'UP' with a 98% fresh rating.

    That's pretty outstanding stuff.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    When Prince Philip slays Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty (yes, she's turned herself into a dragon, but you know she's a human type being anyway) there is blood.
    I think Maleficent is far more scary than the villain in UP!
    The witch/evil Queen in Snow White is pretty darn scary too.
     
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    Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs

    Man...there's going to be limited merchandise released for UP... it's going to be hard as heck to find something with Charles Muntz on it :)
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Oh, and the Black Cauldron may have had blood too, I read that it did but can't remember.
     
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    Originally Posted By magic0214

    I agree with FerretAfros. This was my favorite Pixar movie. I got very attached to the characters. No one in the theater was really amazed that blood was used in a family movie, they were very aware of the fact that Carl made a mistake. Everyone clapped at the end. I loved WALL-E, but this movie beats it. I deeply loved this movie!
     
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    Originally Posted By BoyStory

    giggles at #4 (DyG, LOL!)

    Wow, I'm seriously astonished by the implication that this movie was "violent" or has any material which would constitute a PG-13 rating! I am SUPER conservative with what I allow my kids to view (don't even allow some PG movies) and I felt there was NOTHING about it inappropriate for even my 4 year old!

    I had the pleasure of seeing "Up" yesterday for a child's birthday party with my 8 yr old son. I too was very quickly wrapped up in the beauty of the sentimentaly of it. In these tough economic times, we are very chosy about which films we see as a [large] family of 7 and I honestly can't WAIT to share it with my family- esp my kids. It's definately a "hug your kid" type movie, LOL. This movie embraces those "little" things in life that really matter and teaches this wonderful moral in the fabric of the story. I walked out of the theater thinking whoever wrote the script actually has a grasp on what really counts in life. One word of advise to those who share the wonderful sentiment the movie offers is to bring KLEENEX. :) Two thumbs Waaay ..."UP"!
     
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    Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

    PG sure has changed since back in the day. I watched Woody Allen's Sleeper, rated PG, and I'm sure it would have been rated PG-13 today.
     
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    Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

    There is also blood in the Lion King. There's a nice blood spray when Simba pops Scar in the face.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    The second Indiana Jones was for sure a PG-13, but I think it came out before that rating was created.
     
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    Originally Posted By TheRedhead

    I have a silly question: why is showing blood a bad thing? My two-year-old has seen blood live and up close. Why would seeing it in a movie of any kind be bad? What are we protecting our kids from?

    Blood is the result of violence. Maybe the problem is that we DON'T show blood more often. Maybe showing the consequences of our actions is a good thing. It's weird that blood is some kind of taboo - a PG-13 movie can show a guy get riddled with bullets, but god forbid he bleeds.

    And I guess you could say, "Well just don't be violent." But as stated by others, Disney is at its best when it doesn't condescend to kids. Life is violent. Sometimes there will be blood.

    And by the way, 'dud' might be a poor choice of words, given the rave reviews and boffo box office this weekend.
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    That's what I was wondering, too, Redhead. We're a klutzy brood at my house. We're used to seeing lots of blood. It's only natural afterall. It's flowing in all of us...is that really so awful?

    Now, I don't like violence at all but it does have a place, especially in storytelling. I'll have to see the movie, I guess.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Hello, dsjohnson1, and welcome to the LP discussion boards. Please do go over to the Community Board and introduce yourself.

    I have taken careful note that UP is not on your recommended film list.
     
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    Originally Posted By MouseBear

    Salutations All,

    "UP" was a WONDERFUL movie!

    It is a powerful, touching, funny and sad representation of what's truly important in life and how ANYONE can be important and needed.

    However Pixar does what they do they need to keep DOING it!

    Finally I don't normally cry in movies, but I cried in this one (at the end of the opeing montage and when Carl finally looks through Ellie's book).

    Go see this today, it will enrich and change your life!

    MouseBear
     
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    Originally Posted By skinnerbox

    UP did not receive the PG rating for blood. Films which depict young children under 12 yrs in mortal danger will never get a G rating from MPAA, even animated films.

    Some kids will strongly identify with characters on the screen their own age and react anxiously to these situations. The PG rating is a nice heads up to those parents whose kids are sensitive in this regard.
     
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    Originally Posted By dsjohnson1

    On 6/1/09 President Bill Clinton ordered a government investigation into whether - and how - the entertainment business was marketing violence to children. (In a report released in September 2000, federal regulators said the movie, video game and music industries aggressively marketed to underage youths violent products that carried adult ratings.)
     
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    Originally Posted By dsjohnson1

    On 6/1/99 President Bill Clinton ordered a government investigation into whether - and how - the entertainment business was marketing violence to children. (In a report released in September 2000, federal regulators said the movie, video game and music industries aggressively marketed to underage youths violent products that carried adult ratings.)
     

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