Originally Posted By Expo_Seeker40 Some of you may know by now that the sign shop quietly removed the gear sign for the carousel of progress overnight a couple of days ago. (Something about the rust stains dripping down the sides of the gears and the paint bubbling in the sun.) While the sign is going through much needed TLC, I'm still amazed by TDO's and WDI's love/hate relationship with this attraction. The building and it's foundation, I'm convinced is rooted so hard into the swampland that TDO is too lazy to get rid of it. The CoP will never be a Horizons demolition, but it will likely never be an entirely different attraction. i.e. flying saucers 2.0 The attraction still gets mentions by Disney now and then. Kind of like a few weeks ago when Disney Parks hired a new staff writer to talk about the 64 world's fair thanks to a fanboi reminding them what April 22 means to Disney besides earth day and the animal kingdom. The CoP's upkeep has always amazed me. The sign's issues were becoming a such a problem to the point where it was sent away. The exterior was repainted a few years ago, but the theaters were never finished. There are still old theaters and new theaters. Oh...you may be able to notice some wall paneling on the theater walls is coming a part. The 1975 plastic paneling has had enough spins. Does a refurbed CoP sign...or even new sign mean much? No....it just goes on with the love/hate relationship of the ride. There are no more dishes in the dishwasher in the 1940s scene because they were jamming against the counter because the dishwasher has gone off it's track. The film playing on the TV in the 1940s scene has been restored, yet father's jaw since august 2010 is still broken. Cast Members are now informing people that the ride rotates every four minutes. Because of guests, the ride looks like it's breaking down, and has turned into a forgotten, unadvertised, attraction at Disney. While many guests enjoy the ride, many have no idea what it is, fall asleep, or feel awkward the entire time on it.
Originally Posted By MPierce I really had no interest in going on the attraction in December. I know that is sacrilege, but I just wasn't up for it. For a long time now I've felt that this attraction is truly long in the tooth, and belongs more in a museum rather than the Magic Kingdom. I've always held back on mentioning this for fear of the death threats I know I will be receiving.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I always enjoy this attraction when it's open and I'm at WDW. Because I figure it will more than likely be torn out for some Princess meet and greet or some useless Disney character playland for the toddler crowd.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper It's time for the CoP to move onto the Walt Disney Museum, or something of the like. The attraction no longer belongs in Tomorrowland, plain and simple, or any theme park for that matter. As Indiana Jones says, "It belongs in a museum!"
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I always enjoy the Carousel of Progress and it seems to have become more popular again in recent years. Although it could certainly use some additional maintenance, I think it is generally in far better shape than I remember it being 6 or so years ago. At one point it looked like a mechanical part was going to poke right through poor dad's neck in the first scene. That has been repaired for quite a while and overall the sets look cleaner. Even Rover seems to have received a much-needed bath and brushing in all the scenes. Although in most cases I don't like treating attractions as 'museum pieces', with the Carousel I think it is entirely appropriate. There is probably no attraction more closely associated with Walt than the Carousel. When they updated the final scene I did not like it... it seems totally out of character with the rest of the show.
Originally Posted By Manfried I agree with Hokie, while its nice to like some of the old Disney designed attractions they have outlived their time. I understand Disneyland has the same problem with its Lincoln show. No one goes in the building. Time for some things to retire.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Move this version of the show into a museum, use the building for a NEW CoP show that's easier to sit through, and more focused on the theme of Tomorrowland. Some SciFi/Realism would be nice.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I don't for a second think this attraction needs to be retired. But this version does. PROGRESS should be universal. And showcasing it is timeless ... but the mid-90s show currently playing in 2011 isn't. The whole show needs a rethinking ... but it is certainly more timeless than Tiki Birds and we all know the deal there.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Good idea EE.<<< Thank you, sir! It's a concept that needs to be kept in the Kingdom, or in EPCOT, but this version isn't good any more. Something looking forward instead of back would be welcome.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>The whole show needs a rethinking ... but it is certainly more timeless than Tiki Birds and we all know the deal there.<<< Do we? I still have a fear of a blue menace moving in...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 have 8 and 12 year old nieces who love the show and ask lots of questions -- maintenance is an issue - tomorrowland- no- move to EPCOT - and yes,last scene replace and please take care of this. I still do not believe usefulness is over- but not maintaining it is more the issue for me than the content ( again scene 4 notwithstanding )
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<move to EPCOT>> It doesn't fit there either. <<I still do not believe usefulness is over- but not maintaining it is more the issue for me than the content ( again scene 4 notwithstanding )>> Scene four, with the way technology moves now, will constantly be out dated. The carousel theater concept is fine. The CoP show concept is not, IMO.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer If it was maintained, it would still be a odd fit, but it certainly would lessen the blow.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>It doesn't fit there either.<<< Change the show. Make it about the future. Move the old show to the WDF museum, and done.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 is it less of a fit the JII - Captain EO ? didn;t say it was a perfect fit - but far better than tomorowland. Last scene needs update at least every 10 years. Can make big jump- not asmuch of a issue - shows history of electronics/tech in country -- SSE tells a similar story over a much longer span of time does it not ?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<is it less of a fit the JII - Captain EO ? >> JII fits, EO doesn't at all.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ That it does. That's why you make it about the future, like Horizons was, so the two don't clash.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Seriously, we aren't taking a ride on the MAGICal 'let's move CoP to EPCOT' trip, are we? If so, then I need about six stiff drinks.
