Originally Posted By HMButler79 <a href="http://www.insidethemagic.net/2011/10/select-disney-world-restaurants-to-charge-fee-for-no-shows-will-require-credit-card-guarantee-for-dining-reservations/" target="_blank">http://www.insidethemagic.net/...vations/</a>
Originally Posted By vbdad55 it's about time - you have people really wanting to get into some of these places and there are empty tables for no shows. I have no issue with it as Cindy's and Cali have been like this for years.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper This is a terrific change to the reservation system. Anything that deters WDW guest from making reservations they don't plan on keeping and taking up valuable tables is a good thing. I dunno why you see this as a negative, save for the fact that you see everything as a negative.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Isn't this pretty much standard for most in-demand restaurants? It makes sense to me.
Originally Posted By DlandDug Hmph. So many reasonable folks around these days. Where's the misplaced RAGE, people???
Originally Posted By vbdad55 "I dunno why you see this as a negative, save for the fact that you see everything as a negative." Bingo
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Great move on Disney's part. I think the current system is terrible. I have been to several restaurants on property that look half empty but they either wont seat you at all or make you wait a long time. Good for you Disney!
Originally Posted By HMButler79 uhhh we wouldn't even have this problem if DDP didn't exist. DDP is having the burgers, dogs, n chickern finger crowd eat at Cali Grill and Narcoosees when they wouldnt have dared enter before. So now we have to deal w/ those people and the fact that PS leaves NO ROOM for walkups. But you all hate ANYTHING that me or TDLFAN post.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""I have been to several restaurants on property that look half empty but they either wont seat you at all or make you wait a long time."" Because they;ve been held hosatge SIX MONTHS AHEAD by DDP. THATS WHY
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I think it's a great idea. Maybe more guest will be able to eat at the more popular restuarants. It's a shame that Disney HAD go this far. It's the other guest that book more than one resveration that it has gone to this.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 My resturants choice doesn't decide for me if I my using the DDP or not! I can pay OOP, just as easy as the DDP. I do the DDP so that my food is all paied for and I don't have to do more saving or planning. ...I don't use CC at all.
Originally Posted By SeventyOne <uhhh we wouldn't even have this problem if DDP didn't exist.> Sorry fellow Doom & Gloomer, but I give DDP a pass on this one. This is much more a byproduct of the hyper-planner helicopter moms who schedule out every 5-minute interval of their vacation. The ones WDW seems to want to cater to most... Then again, it's also a byproduct of Disney's Wal-Martization. They would rather run a restaurant at half-capacity with ADR guests only rather than chance that enough guests will walk up to make if profitable at full capacity--so what if that's bad show. The same mentality that leads to all the restaurants closing 4 hours before the rest of the park on EMH nights, and World Showcase not opening before 11.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<But you all hate ANYTHING that me or TDLFAN post. >> Having an opinion that WDW isn't as good as used to be is a valid one. I don't necessarily agree with it. I still think Disney does a lot more right than wrong. Then again I only get to visit there every five years or so, so I'm just more interested in having a good time than looking at everything wrong. And it's just the type of person I am, I can basically have fun wherever I am. Yes even at a funeral(my grandmother's about ten years ago.) Hokie, ChiMike and davewasbaloo and others agree with you that WDW isn't as good as it once was. But here's the difference. They don't act smug and arrogant in giving their opinions. Did you read the Food and Wine Festival thread that TDL started? He turned it into a personal attack against danyoung that was completely unwarranted. And then used it as a ploy to say he's being picked on. It was a bullying tactic and a cowardly move, but then that's what bullies are cowards. And I can speak to this because over in World Events I used to be that type of guy. And trust me it burns a lot of bridges with people that ultimately isn't worth it.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I want you to know that we don't hate the things you have to post HMButler79, duckling. We may not always agree with your view point. But we do think you have the same right to make your point as anyone else within the Laughing Place pond. ORWEN: And for somebody who gets criticized from time to time, you sure seem to get a lot of reponses to what you have to say! It seems to me you're pretty popular! ORDDU: We would hope that everybody--no matter who they are--takes a moment to think of the most courteous way to respond to each other around here instead of going out of their way to insult someone else with a differing opinion. It's often too easy to become careless and reckless in situations like this. But none of us should ever take delight in hurting the feelings of others. Let's hope we can all try to better understand one another whenever there is a disagreement, rather than throw each other 'under the bus'. To sink to that level isn't the least bit flattering to anyone who chooses to indulge in that sort of behaviour. ORWEN: We all need to remember to be good to each other. It's a lot more fun that way!
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Two separate discussions here. I agree that the DDP has had a very significant influence on dining at WDW. I believe that it has downgraded the experience overall. Menu's have been homogonized and while I could care less who eats where, I think that the plan has forced many restaurant's to offer more pedestrian fare to make money. I think the Disney vacation has moved more toward ultra planning and that has a effect on restaurant reservations. People seem to feel that they need to preplan every moment. I can understand that people need to make a reservation for places like Le Cellier or California Grill. But many of the other places (breakfast at the hotel?) seem silly choices to make a reservation 6 months in advance. The other problem is that because vacations tend to be more fluid than even the most A type can plan for, people get involved in other things, or feel they would rather do the MK instead of EPCOT but then dont cancel a reservation they have made, leaving empty tables. Disney's mistake in this has been not to fill the table after a reasonable amount of time. Either way, I think it is a good decision on Disney part to ask for a credit card for the most popular places
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Yea, the dining plan sucks. This has absolutely nothing to do with the dining plan.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> DDP is having the burgers, dogs, n chickern finger crowd << Isn't that your crowd, HMButler?
Originally Posted By SeventyOne <Disney's mistake in this has been not to fill the table after a reasonable amount of time.> This. They would rather empty, unstaffed tables than taking chance that a walk-up will fill a table 10 minutes after the ADR. Mostly because the system has taught guests walk-ups never get seated (even at places where they probably could).
Originally Posted By irishfan I'm all for this change. I know of instances where individuals make numerous bookings at various restaurants for the same time and decide on the day which one to turn up to.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Well my feeling is that if you have a 6pm reservation and your not there by 6:30 then the table should be released. If the guest with a reservation then shows up they can wait til the next table opens up. Guests should be warned at the time of the reservation that the table will only be held so long before it is released
