Originally Posted By GOB I was just thinking...how bad would it be for WDC if Tron fails at the box office? They seem to be hinging a lot of things on the movie's success, and it'd be frightening to see this movie come in with disappointing results.
Originally Posted By mawnck They would finally understand that it's much better to come up with good, creative original new properties rather than endlessly recycling stuff that worked (or didn't) in the past. HAAAAAAAA-hahahahahahahahahaaaaaa! My sides, my sides.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA "The Apple Dumpling Gang: The Early Years" "One of our Dinosaurs is Missing -- Again!" "Herbie Goes All Freaky and Stuff"
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub In the Holiday Movie Guide today...TRON:Legacy Dec.17 A recent preview on IMAX screens sold out in a day. I expect this is a midnight premiere Does anybody know? The elecTRONica in DCA is creating huge fun and expectations for this movie. But the review in my local paper today also states "expect to be visually wowed!
Originally Posted By leemac You beat me to it GOB - I was thinking about creating a similar thread today too! Allegedly the budget for this movie is up to $300m after the reshoots - and all before marketing and distribution. That is huge. Even if that number is actually closer to $200m you are still looking at the movie needing to join the $1bn club internationally to turn a profit. I'm just not sure that there is sufficient interest - TRON: Legacy isn't Avatar. Studios management will win no matter what happens as they'll blame Dick Cook's regime. However Sean Bailey who is producer on the movie is now head of production at the Studios so he will need to stand by his product. I really hate the current direction of the Studios building all movies around tentpole family-orientated Disney-branded movies. I miss the old days of Touchstone and Hollywood Pictures releasing features like Good Morning Vietnam, Dead Poet's Society, The Sixth Sense etc. Maybe I've just got jaded but nothing has really worked for me (except for Alice). If the Studios believe that features like G-Force and The Sorcerer's Apprentice are the future then count me out.
Originally Posted By utahjosh I loved the Sorcerer's Apprentice. And I'm pretty excited about Tron: Legacy. I don't think it will be the mega-hit they need.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>"Herbie Goes All Freaky and Stuff"<< They actually did that one. It was called Herbie: Fully Loaded. As far as whether TRON fails or not, oftentimes the synergy can outlive a lackluster property. WaterWorld the attraction at Uni Hollywood is much better and has had a much longer life than WaterWorld the movie. The tent pole strategy works spectacularly-- when it works. Pirates of the Caribbean is proof of that. But like that little girl with the little curl, when it's bad it's AWFUL.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 I was going to say the same thing as post #10. Even if the movie doesn't clear one billion, if all the second stream product is a hit, then the film will be considered a success, and this property has big merchandising potential, which is why I am guessing Disney is investing so much in the movie. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Anatole69 Also one of the movie vlogs posted on youtube about Tron: Legacy had the commentators saying that they had spoken to the producer about Disney taking better advantage of its back catalog, and they specifically mentioned the Black Hole as one of the properties Disney should take advantage of... and a poster for the Black Hole appears in briefly in the trailer for Tron, so I wouldn't laugh at the prospect of a remake happening for The Black Hole, it might actually happen. - Anatole
Originally Posted By leemac The issue is that Studio Entertainment is a standalone business unit and therefore management are accountable for its performance. They may get some credit for creating a character line that can spawn a consumer product behemoth (think Cars) but ultimately the movie needs to do well on its first run - subsequent sales won't help. I'm not sure Waterworld is the best example either. You don't throw hundreds of millions of dollars on a movie and then shrug and say "hey we have a stunt show in a theme park that is still there." People aren't going to Universal solely to see Waterworld - or at least I hope not. Cars is probably the best example I can think of. A disappointment at the domestic box office (c.$245m compared to production costs of $150m) and it didn't resonate with international audiences at all - so its total box office was less than half that of TS3 this year (and in fact Cars total box office is only marginally ahead of what Up earned outside the US). However it has created a merchandising juggernaut that continues to motor along - it is that successful boys' line that the company craves so much. Maybe TRON: Legacy will add another successful boys' line to DCP. I'm just concerned that the box office is very crowded in the next eight weeks and both Tangled and TRON: Legacy have a lot of competition for people's dollars. I am significantly more buoyant about TRON: Legacy's ability to hold on to those 3D screens that Tangled which I think will get a good caning from Megamind and HP7.1
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Black Hole appears in briefly in the trailer for Tron, so I wouldn't laugh at the prospect of a remake happening for The Black Hole, it might actually happen.> Of course it might! LOL! I only hope they can bring back some of the insipid dialogue from the first movie.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Sorry I should have said earlier. The Black Hole is already in pre-production - I kid you not. Joe Kosinski (TRON: Legacy director) is on board. I don't think it has a release date yet but it is set for 2012 (I'd guess the same slot that TRON has this year). If I remember rightly the writer also did Clash of the Titans. Oh goody.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA ^^^Incredible. Could it be that "Gus" is not too far behind? LOL!
Originally Posted By alexbook Am I the only one not looking forward to this movie? I saw the preview at DCA last week, and it didn't grab me. I wonder how much of the "Tron" enthusiasm that's out there is driven by the movie itself and how much by nostalgia. The movie itself is pretty cheesy.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I'm not looking forward to it either. I don't like computer programs. And I hear it's just people dressed up to look like computer programs the whole way through.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <And I hear it's just people dressed up to look like computer programs the whole way through.> That's the whole concept of the movie, Constance,yes. It was like that in the original. Did you know that computer programs, when they're happy to see each other, hug? Saw that in the original 'Tron.'
