Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Here, yet again, the Spirit shows how truly fair and balanced he is by creating a thread devoted to ONLY the good things he has noticed. DAK is very good and getting better all the time. Everest (despite near constant problems with effects not working) is the best E-Ticket in a long time ... and Nemo: The Musical is a real crowd pleaser, not to mention the best stage show at WDW in what seems like eons. With the already good LotLK playing and the Birds of Wonder show, this park has the Disney market cornered on live entertainment. Also has some damn good BBQ! Resort renovations are finally kicking into high gear and bringing many resorts into the 21st century. From the Contemp to the WL to the ASMu,the quality and feel of the furnishings and ambience is improving greatly. CMs ... some how, some way ... maybe it is pixie dust because it sure isn't pay and/or appreciation from management, but they have been almost universally good to excellent on every visit in 2006 ... even the bus drivers (always a WEAK area) have been friendly and helpful with ACCURATE up-to-date park info instead of crazy rumors about fifth parks and where Walt's head is kept. Fireworks ... always a blast. OK ... that's a good start ...be prepared for the areas WDW isn't doing quite so well soon (look at it as that Christmas present from me that got lost in the mail!)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I agree on all counts. I would also say that live entertainment across all 4 parks seem better than our trip in 2000. Guest relations cast members at the MK are better than their California and Parisian counterparts in my experience.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Guest relations cast members at the MK are better than their California and Parisian counterparts in my experience>> It's possible that at Anaheim the CM's have become more guarded due to some AP's who ruin it for everyone else with their entitlement mentality.
Originally Posted By jmuboy IMO, Animal Kingdom is great from the front gate to the farthest reaches of the safari's savannah. Also, the decision to add a DVC to DAK Lodge. What a mgnificent hotel now with even more to see and do.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 I really love the refurbishment of the Polynesian Resort. I love the injokes all over the ceramonial hall with the tiki statues (For example go into the Bootiki and look out the window to see a tiki monster peering in). Im also glad they didnt overdo any syngery stuff...stitch merchandise has a presence but its small and doesnt overshadow the main theme rather compliments it. I also love what they did with Captin Cooks and I can finally get Pinapple whip without having to go to MK.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN 5 posts in 2 days. There sure is a lot of positive things happening at WDW.
Originally Posted By ChampDisney ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Can you say something positive please. Oh and your the 6th post, so that makes me 7th....WOW. Big Deal.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<5 posts in 2 days. There sure is a lot of positive things happening at WDW.>> I wonder why bother with the positives at all ... it's obvious that my many fans here would much rather read about all the bad stuff ... from the fact you can always count on finding cheerios or pretzels on your resort floor, or the one really nasty CM I encountered all week (HINT: she works at the Mara and her first name begins with an L!) or the fact the WL parking lot hasn't been repaved since the place opened in '94 ... or about the fact NONE of the real effects on EE were working this week ... or how about the fact pools are no longer heated to 80 degrees in winter to save money ... or how depressing it was to be in WoL this week ... or something real important -- the fact bathrooms in the parks are not nearly as clean as they need to be? I could go on and on ... and if I did, rest assured, folks would come on out and discuss and post (and attack too). But post a positive thread on a GREAT WDW visit? Nobody gives a damn. FOX News has it right. Negativity sells. I'll remember that when speaking to my literary agent!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<But post a positive thread on a GREAT WDW visit? Nobody gives a damn.>> I give a damn... I've enjoyed seeing your posts that show things are improving. <<FOX News has it right. Negativity sells.>> Yup... you've got it. Who knows why a board devoted to the "Happiest Place on Earth" brings out so many who would rather see the bad than the good, but it sure does.
Originally Posted By Fe Maiden I enjoy reading the good and bad as well. To be fair there doesn't seem to be a whirlwind of activity in many threads right now. Must be the holidays.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Well, it is mostly because when you agree with a discussion topic there is no discussion to be had. How many times can you say "right!". If you take a minute to think about it the only way to respond in numbers is to say that the place sucks and obviously that isn't the way most people feel. When on the other hand the entire discussion is based on someones rant about the degree of perfection they would like to see then others will disagree and chime in on the discussion. To make a long story short, good original post, I agree, the place doesn't suck and for once you were positive and able to see the glass as half full. Here's an extend pat on the back for being a little less jaded.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I give a damn... I've enjoyed seeing your posts that show things are improving.>> Thanks. And thanks for the nice note! I do believe things in many areas are improving, as I've said, while some areas (like the MK as a whole or transport problems) aren't. <<FOX News has it right. Negativity sells.>> <<Yup... you've got it. Who knows why a board devoted to the "Happiest Place on Earth" brings out so many who would rather see the bad than the good, but it sure does.>> Well, I know it's 12/24 and I hate to be cynical, but I believe most Americans aren't happy right now. I think the chips they carry on their shoulders take all forms (like the murder at a local mall we just had a few hours ago in SoFla) ... so it comes out in many ways ... I'll readily admit I take out frustrations I have with stupidity and lowering standards at WDW by posting here because I know it gets read by people who can do something about it. But boy have those DCA threads become hateful like it's 2001 all over again!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Well, it is mostly because when you agree with a discussion topic there is no discussion to be had. How many times can you say "right!".>> I'd say as many times as you agree. Then you expound on why you feel that way and the discussion flows. My point was people who often accuse me (and others) of only seeing the bad are the ones most often who ignore when we post about the good! <<If you take a minute to think about it the only way to respond in numbers is to say that the place sucks and obviously that isn't the way most people feel. When on the other hand the entire discussion is based on someones rant about the degree of perfection they would like to see then others will disagree and chime in on the discussion. To make a long story short, good original post, I agree, the place doesn't suck and for once you were positive and able to see the glass as half full. Here's an extend pat on the back for being a little less jaded.>> When have I EVER said that WDW sucks? Answer -- NEVER! Because it doesn't and I never have believed otherwise. I don't look at the glass half full or half empty. I just write about what I see. I suppose I could say DAK and Epcot are great and largely getting better, while MK and Disney-MGM are stale, tired places that are getting worse ... that would be half-full/half-empty. But I'd rather just point out why it is that I believe both of the above to be true. As to being jaded, guilty as charged. I have experienced far too much in life as a whole and with TWDC in particular to not be jaded. But I will close on a very positive note by saying my recent visit was one of the best I've had in years, and that on the whole in 2006 WDW has taken many steps to fix what ails it. Merry Dec. 25th all!
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< My point was people who often accuse me (and others) of only seeing the bad are the ones most often who ignore when we post about the good! >>> Ain't that the truth.
Originally Posted By brotherdave Merry Christmas, Spirit (and to everyone else!). Thanks for posting some of the positives of WDW. We found a few things that we thought could be improved in our June 2006 trip (peeling paint and rust in Tomorrowland, water wheel not working on SFTreehouse, etc.), but overall, we saw A LOT of positive things at the parks, especially when comparing WDW to other theme parks that we have visited. As bad as some people think WDW has become, all they need to do is visit one of many other theme parks (i.e. Six Flags, etc) to see that WDW isn't so bad after all. But, there's ALWAYS room for improvement, even at Disney. Thanks, Spirit, for all of your honest apraisals that you've written, whether good or bad. At least you show passion for a place that I can tell that you love, as do most of us here. (You too, TDLFAN!) And when something IS done right, we want to hear about it, as I'm sure, so does Disney management.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>And when something IS done right, we want to hear about it, as I'm sure, so does Disney management.<< I am sure management appreciates the praise, but I don't think most people here care to be bombarded with positive posts right and left, and at least when I do post on positive things.. my posts go to the bottom of the list rather quickly, so no. People do not care when I post positive reports.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip << but I don't think most people here care to be bombarded with positive posts right and left, and at least when I do post on positive things.. my posts go to the bottom of the list rather quickly>> As I said to the Spirit, some of us DO care and we should probably be more vocal about it. I really appreciate that while both you and the Spirit will hold Disney's feet to the fire at times, you also clearly love the parks and will happily report on what you find that is right with them. I don't know about others here, but it is precisely those kinds of posts that keep me coming back to LP. If I never saw anything here but the unrelenting negativity of some folks I don't think I could take it. Thanks and Merry Chrismahanukwanzakah to all.
Originally Posted By kennect Posistive posts might fall down the list quickly but that gives no indication as to how many people have read them...Keep them coming, they will be read....
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "My point was people who often accuse me (and others) of only seeing the bad are the ones most often who ignore when we post about the good!" Not me, I know you and number of other key "negative" posters care more than most of these "it's all magic" ignoramouses. Why take so much time out of our busy lives. It hurts to see the depravation creeping in and I share that pain. For the record, I didn't post much as you mentioned most of the good points already!
