Originally Posted By skinnerbox I'm still stunned over the devastation that's hit Missouri after Sunday's F4 tornado, killing at least 117 people at last count. My heart goes out to all involved in Joplin. That being said... where are the evangelical preachers in all of this? The deadliest tornado since 1950 rips up Missouri, and these clowns are no where to be found. When natural disasters strike blue or purple states, these bozos crawl out of the woodwork, yelling about how God is angry at the victims for their heathen, wicked ways, and the disaster is punishment for their transgressions. So... why isn't God punishing the citizens of Missouri for their heathen and wicked ways, preachers? Why is this simply a horrific natural disaster when it hits a red state like Missouri, but some kind of divine punishment when a horrific natural disaster hits a blue or purple state? Hypocrisy much?
Originally Posted By fkurucz I've heard fire & brimstone types says it's punishement when it happens in their locales.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Attention should be paid to those individuals and groups who are helping with recovery efforts.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<That was your first thought? Seriously?>> Of course not! But thanks for thinking this way about me. Makes me feel really special. 8^P
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> I'm still stunned over the devastation that's hit Missouri after Sunday's F4 tornado, killing at least 117 people at last count. << I would be stunned too, except that it seems like this is happening almost every week. I'm getting weather catastrophe overload. If it's not the tornadoes, it's the floods. And we haven't even gotten to hurricane season yet.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^^I was chatting with a guy from Singapore. He asked me why do people choose to live in tornado country. I had to explain to him that 1/3 of the country would be uninhabited if no one lived there.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I wonder if this will serve as a wake up call for those that deny climate change? I know the floods we have endured in the UK have been a catalyst over here.
Originally Posted By gadzuux In short - no. Their opposition to the reality of climate change is opposition to science itself. Their beliefs are not based in actual facts and/or reason, so they're immune from more facts and reason. Just today I came across a column that likens the doomsday preacher to "leftists" that preach impending disaster from climate change. >> For years now, we have been told by the world's left-wing media that scientists are united in predicting that there will be worldwide catastrophe as a result of global warming caused by manmade carbon dioxide emissions. Oceans will rise so high that they will drown many of the world's great coastal cities; entire island-countries will disappear; vast areas of the world will dry up; and countries will fight one another for the little remaining fresh water. Compared to the global warming scenario, I'll face the Rapture -- and I'm not even Christian. << This is what passes for informed judgement. The author doesn't actually dispute any of the predictions, just affirms that they're "dire" and that the rapture doesn't seem so bad by comparison. Republicans are the driving force behind climate change deniers, and they're doubling down. Most of the current crop of GOP presidential candidates have been strongly and clearly on record as supporting some form of cap and trade for carbon offsets - in the past. Yet each and every one has done a complete 180 on their positions in order to pander to the ignorance and suspicions of the GOP base. The McCain-Palin ticket of 2008 was in favor of cap and trade, and part of the Pawlenty, Huntsman and Romney governor administrations. Gingrich not only endorsed carbon emission reductions, he sat on a couch with Nancy Pelosi in front of the capitol building and filmed a public service announcement to endorse his position. Yet today, each and every one has recanted their previously stated positions. They have to, otherwise they're no longer a republican in good standing. Meanwhile the actual facts keep piling up. But reality doesn't matter to republicans.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Just today I came across a column that likens the doomsday preacher to "leftists" that preach impending disaster from climate change." This just made me throw up in my mouth a little...and that's even less fun when it's sushi.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost There are not nearly as many people that deny "climate change" as those that reject "global warming". Even though it sounds the same on one level, it is drastically different. Global warming folks tend to believe that we can control it or have vast amounts of influence on it. Climate change take the approach that it is natures cyclical being that has happened before and will happen again and there isn't a damn thing we can do about it. I'm from the later camp.
Originally Posted By mele Many people believe in both...they believe that the vile things we do to the Earth DO matter and believe in doing what they can to not make things which are uncontrollable any worse. I'm always confused by the people who seem to believe in God the most, also seem to delight in crapping all over his gift of this beautiful planet. We've had conservative posters in WE brag about not giving a crap about conservation, feeling the Earth was theirs to destroy. So respectful.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo What I find very interesting is the Pope, despite all his flaws, has been preaching about the importance of environmental responsiblity and the effect on Climate Change. Global warming is a fact. It doesn't mean we will not get freezing winters, or summers will feel the same or wetter, but one a global curve, taking mean averages, the tempature has been increasing, and for the first time on record, you can navigate a ship over the north of Canada. So there is scientific evidence and an international religious leader (if not THE leader to be frank, no other faith has such an international icon), that both accept it, and want to make a change. I went to our tidy tip at the weekend (the dumps in the UK), and I recycled all but one thing I took there. I was very happy as I left that it said April achieved a 79% recycling outcome. Though I know we can still do better.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 "I went to our tidy tip at the weekend (the dumps in the UK), and I recycled all but one thing I took there." See, that is the great thing about the UK...they make even dumps sound nice. Tidy tip...I love it! I am going to start calling our dump here that. People will probably think I am nuts (not that I talk about it all that often anyways) but who cares
Originally Posted By gadzuux A couple of "british-isms" that I picked up from the royal wedding were a "knees up" event - meaning that it's a more fun, less proper event, and there may even be some spontaneous dancing; and a comment about Mrs Middleton giving her family a "pull your socks up" lecture about having to behave themselves 24/7 now that they're in the media spotlight. What we call a sweater they call a wooly jumper. What we call a truck they call an articulated lorrie. There's a bunch of these ...
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<What we call a sweater they call a wooly jumper. What we call a truck they call an articulated lorrie. There's a bunch of these ...>> When we say "fanny" we are talking about the derriere. To the Brits that refers (a rather vulgar reference) to something on the opposite side of females. Note to all: don't talk about "fanny packs" when you are in England!! LOL
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 My son is reading the Harry Potter series he thought their use of the "snogging" instead of kissing was hilarious, even though he is at the kissing is gross stage. Apparently, kissing is gross but snogging is funny.
Originally Posted By Hojosun >>"Just today I came across a column that likens the doomsday preacher to "leftists" that preach impending disaster from climate change.">> I never thought of that, so so true
Originally Posted By Hojosun No question man made global worming is every bit of a religion as the crazies who think God will end the World, and they have the date. Only God knows when it's all over. Not al Gore, not Par Robinson. Both are sad, because their followers are brain washed
