Originally Posted By bobbelee9 I wonder if MPierce was joshing us way back in his first post? I guess I can agree with doing away with prime rib at buffets. But the Castle use to have King's Cut and Queeen's cut, prime rib dinners. Droolingly delicious. I have the receipe and that's what I make for Christmas Dinner.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I wonder if MPierce was joshing us way back in his first post? << I would never josh about such a thing bobbelee!
Originally Posted By MPierce I think some of you are missing the bigger issue. Once again something has been eliminated, and replaced with something cheaper. Slowly, but surly this is starting to happen all over property with food services. We've already seen it with merchandising, custodial cuts, Maintainence of rides, and the property in general. WDW understand they can get away with it so they do. I've never eatten Prime Rib at WDW. Why would I want to go to Boma's, and eat Prime Rib. However, the next cut they make just might effect me or you. That's what everyone should be concerned about.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Good, cause I was afaid you might me trying to put one over on me.:-( << No that's Jim's job.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Good grief, is that what I really wrote? Honest I haven't been drinking, can't, I have to go to a meeting now. I apologize for my crummy typing.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Good grief, is that what I really wrote? Honest I haven't been drinking, can't, I have to go to a meeting now. I apologize for my crummy typing. << That's what most of my post look like anyway. My fingers go all over the place. I miss keys, hit the wrong one or just generaly misspell the word. No big deal, everyone pretty much figures out what kind of idiotic statement I was making anyhow.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Once again something has been eliminated, and replaced with something cheaper.<< This is true. Personally, I find buffets to be pretty wasteful things in general. People load up way more than they would normally because they feel they need to get their "money's worth." You always see plates that are 2/3's covered with food from someone's second or third pass through after people leave the restaurant. It would make more sense, if cost is an issue, to just get rid of buffets entirely. That way, meals can be portioned, and guests can be charged accurately for what they get. The deal with a buffet is, some people will eat a lot more, while others eat a lot less, yet the price is the same for all (and wow, do they ding you for kids prices at a Disney buffet).
Originally Posted By sassystitch I used to enjoy the buffets, but now I find they slow us down and we spend way too much money. Most of them have a high price tag because of the character interaction and not necessarily the quality of the food.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I wonder if they think by saying it out loud they can make themselves (and others) believe it... << You know how it seems to be there at Mouse World -em. When the higher ups say "In order to better serve our guest, and grant their wishes", we know from past experience that either means CM's or Guest or both or fixing to get a porking. I sometimes wonder myself if they buy into the BS they dish out. I know they certainly hope we do.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Well, why don't all you apologists send a note to Disney commending them on helping out guests by offering a lower grade of meat for a higher price ... perhaps they'll send you a pin! FWIW, I hardly ever go to buffets, except at WDW (and there only Boma and Trail's End regularly) and Las Vegas ... (I did do two GREAT ones in Hong Kong, however, including one at HKDL's Chef Mickey's). But I understand that prime rib is a staple of buffets and it always has been. And they cut it thinner at Boma then I've ever had it anywhere on earth to begin with ... so this line that the slices are too thick and everything is just for those people who are thick enough in the head to buy such blatant lies. I've always had to ask for more because they give you the skimpiest amounts known to man anywhere to begin with. The prime rib at Boma is terrific and in my many dozens of meals there since 2001 always appears to be the most popular entree item. Again, this is WalMarting pure and simple. Whether you like prime rib or not and whether you care that the price of a dinner at Boma has likely gone up (wish I had the old prices handy) about $12 in the seven years the place has been open. This is part and parcel of what Disney's business model is all about ... cut, cut and cut more quality all the while raising prices and claiming what you're doing is really what the guests want. When I 'rediscovered' Trail's End's great buffet in 1995 the price for lunch was $4.99 (including drink) and you got 20% off that with a DDE Card. ... Flash forward to 2008 and after much tinkering with the menu (they had the gall this summer to remove all the hot entrees and lower prices a whole $1 -- last year's increase in other words -- before complaints brought some of the hot food back) the price is either $11.99 or $12.99 (don't know if they added the dollar back when they reinstated hot items) and the quality has if anything gone down significantly since the mid-90s. This is SOP at Disney ... it's why this last trip when I wanted a buffet for lunch I stopped by the LBV Pizza Hut, which has raised prices all of 50 cents in the past decade. But please defend Disney ... soon Boma will be some salads, two soups, chicken nuggets, fries, one fish dish, one seafood dish and strip loin all for the low-low price of $34.99 for dinner. I gotta say I wonder if most folks actually know BS when they hear it ... nah, I know the answer to that.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << it's why this last trip when I wanted a buffet for lunch I stopped by the LBV Pizza Hut, which has raised prices all of 50 cents in the past decade. >> Ugh, just the thought of Pizza Hut makes me a little bit sick to my stomach. Yuck! They'd have to pay me to eat that stuff!
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< When I 'rediscovered' Trail's End's great buffet in 1995 the price for lunch was $4.99 (including drink) and you got 20% off that with a DDE Card. ... Flash forward to 2008 and after much tinkering with the menu (they had the gall this summer to remove all the hot entrees and lower prices a whole $1 -- last year's increase in other words -- before complaints brought some of the hot food back) the price is either $11.99 or $12.99 (don't know if they added the dollar back when they reinstated hot items) and the quality has if anything gone down significantly since the mid-90s. >>> When I went last December to Trail's End, they had a "holiday surcharge" in effect. It was something like an extra 15% added to the normal price "because of the holidays." The thing is, there was no special items added to the menu that I was aware of - as far as I could tell, they simply raised the prices temporarily "for the holidays", er, to meet their quarterly numbers.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hmmmm, it could be worse. At DLP, buffets now account for 1/3rd of the restaurants and the quality is dubious. And 4 of the 7 hotels only offer buffets. There are only quality Disney buffets in the US resorts - Plaza Gardens in DL and Boma at WDW. It is a shame they are Walmarting them so, but this is a standard at WDW. What I really don't like is these execs then come over to DLP and do the same to our resort and the inexperienced European fans don't know any better. Heck, prime rib is only available in 2 of the buffets at DLP - Le Grange and the Steakhouse Brunch.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<<< The prime rib at Boma is terrific >>> Correction: WAS terrific.*** lol.
Originally Posted By Mr X All you care to eat Prime Rib is served as a complimentary side dish at all Tokyo Disney Resort eateries. It's offered up on a solid gold plate, with truffles and caviar.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Well, why don't all you apologists send a note to Disney commending them on helping out guests by offering a lower grade of meat for a higher price ... perhaps they'll send you a pin! FWIW, I hardly ever go to buffets, except at WDW (and there only Boma and Trail's End regularly) and Las Vegas ... (I did do two GREAT ones in Hong Kong, however, including one at HKDL's Chef Mickey's)." Curious. How is one immediately labeled an apologist on this issue (in the first post even, before any responses) if they generally agree with the move here and then give their reasons why, especially when the majority say they're not fans of prime rib, much less at a buffet? Can't people just not like prime rib without (or shock, simply disagree with the premise of the OP) without being dismissed like this? I happen to love prime rib, but again, prime rib at a buffet is not something I load up on when I'm at any buffet. If I take as much as I'd like, I'm too full to eat anything else there. Consequently, what's the point of getting the buffet? That Disney has finally recognized this as well does not make me all that suspicious of their motives. Many restaurants that serve prime rib don't have an endless supply of it either, the menu usually stating it's there until gone that particular day. They make only as much as they sell. Buffets can't do that by their very nature, making for a lot of food waste. But you knew that. The other curious thing that I found about this making a mountain out of a molehill is the OP doesn't even like the buffets anyway. Why is that? Too much prime rib offered for your liking? So what's the point, other than to rip Disney again? Can't they do one thing that makes sense? "This is part and parcel of what Disney's business model is all about ... cut, cut and cut more quality all the while raising prices and claiming what you're doing is really what the guests want." You're smarter than the rest of us- you know damn well this is part and parcel of every business model everywhere right now. Disney is not immune. We all agree the Magic ain't what it used to be. You've even got another thread going about low occupancy rates at WDW and how bad that is. If you're accurate about that, and you claim you are, then doesn't cutting food costs make sense in order to make up for the fiscal deficiency? Either business is bad or it isn't. How can they win?
