Originally Posted By RoadTrip Yes, but how many offered Prime Rib in the FIRST PLACE? That is very difficult to tell. All of the buffet menus at Deb Will's site just list the generic "carved and grilled meats". Personally, I've never seen Prime Rib at the WDW buffets I’ve tried. Of course then I’ve never been to the Victoria and Albert’s buffet. ;-)
Originally Posted By Socrates I was kind of looking for a number. I can remember people mentioning three (Trail's End & Bomba, I think, and just now V&A). If it's only three, how much money will Disney actually be saving? Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Victoria and Albert's was just a joke -- they certainly are not a buffet and I can't imagine that they've ever even had Prime Rib on their menu... it really isn't that classy an entrée. I also have a hard time believing that Trail's End, as the least expensive buffet at WDW, ever had it either. I think the person who might know the answer to this is Spirit. So... are you going to talk or is it a secret? ;-)
Originally Posted By MPierce I don't really care if they cut the Prime Rib out at 1 or 100 buffets. The point is they once again have made a cut. Folks need to understand that each individual cut by itself is insignificant. It's only when you start adding them up that it becomes troublesome to me. V&A can't really be classifies as a buffet. I think RT was just kidding. I know from reports that Boma is no longer serving Prime Rib.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<The point is they once again have made a cut. Folks need to understand that each individual cut by itself is insignificant.>> But was it a cut based on cost savings or on changing tastes? Your high-end steak houses generally don't even offer it any more. It has really become seen as a fatty, artery-clogging hunk-o-beef for people who don't have the taste to know any better. Kind of the favorite of the beef and beer crowd.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 This past summer 1900 had roast beef in the buffet. I haven't done dinner at Crystal Palace in years, but they use to have it there too. At this point I can't remember if it was just a big side of roast beef or if it was prime rib, but it was very good.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub I know the last time I went to Storytellers Buffet at the Grand Cal in DL theywere not serving the Prime Rib. I have not been back since I felt it was not worth the price. This was probably early Nov. Has anybody been to this buffet lately?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> But was it a cut based on cost savings or on changing tastes? << If I'm not mistaken in the original article they said they would save money. I can't find it now so maybe Spirit could post it. We all know that Disney is more concerned about our health, and our likes, and dislikes. Money is never a deciding factor. I kind of find the statement that someone is looking out for me as insulting. Evidently they don't think I'm capable of making my own decisions when it comes to my dining preferences. If I'm not mistaken Prime Rib has always been on the menu, and was presented as a quality alternative to those not so adventurous goumets.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I did not eat it but I know it was on menu my last time at 1900 Park Faire - Crystal Palace & Boma
Originally Posted By fkurucz <Your high-end steak houses generally don't even offer it any more. It has really become seen as a fatty, artery-clogging hunk-o-beef for people who don't have the taste to know any better. Kind of the favorite of the beef and beer crowd.>> It depends. A true prime rib (as opposed to a mere rib roast) is quite good. I personally have given up on ordering it because most places prepare it so poorly (probably because they don't use USDA Prime quality beef). More often than not what they serve is a nasty chewy mess. I can make a better one at home,
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<If I'm not mistaken in the original article they said they would save money. I can't find it now so maybe Spirit could post it.>> Amazing how these things take on a life of their own. Yes, according to the blogger and our own inestimable Spirit it was a money saving move. According to Disney suits it was responding to guest preference. << Prime rib has been replaced on buffet serving lines at Walt Disney World restaurants with whole strip loins. The official, company line is that the switch was made for aesthetic reasons. Lenny DeGeorge told me that prime rib is not meant to be cut into small slices, which is how people in a buffet situation request it. He says they want smaller portions because they're sampling a lot of different things and don't want to fill up on just prime rib. And when cutting small pieces you can get a lot of fat. The whole strip loin, he says, is better suited for smaller slicing. So at venues like Boma, the all-you-can-eat walkabout buffet at Disney's Animal Kingdom Lodge, the prime rib is out and the whole strip loins are in, and on the spit with the signature African blend of spices.>> Of course since the suits wouldn't know the truth if it bit them it the butt, all reasonable people know that is an outright lie. [rolleyes]
Originally Posted By SuperDry Amazing how people can be so good at selective quotation. You cut-and-pasted two entire paragraphs from the story word-for-word, apparently in order to make your point that the elimination of prime rib was not done for cost-cutting reasons. But, if you had continued on with the very next three sentences in the same story, you'd have pasted this as well: <<< But is that the real reason for the change? Could it be that strip loins are cheaper than standing rib roasts? Restaurants, even those at Walt Disney World, are trying to find ways of cutting costs in this depressed economy. DeGeorge says the strips are a little less expensive >>> [rolleyes]
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ARRRGGGHHHHH!!! Can't you even read??? The Disney guy said exactly what I quoted. It was the blogger that said it was for cost-cutting reasons. In the end that is just one blogger's opinion, which is no better than my opinion or Spirit's opinion or your opinion. My original point, which you seem completely unable to grasp, is that DISNEY did not say that the move was for cost cutting reasons. Capiche?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< ARRRGGGHHHHH!!! >>> I know the feeling. <<< Can't you even read??? >>> I would ask the same question of you. <<< The Disney guy said exactly what I quoted. It was the blogger that said it was for cost-cutting reasons. >>> Read it again. Let me provide once again a quote from the story that you left out: <<< DeGeorge says the strips are a little less expensive >>> DeGeorge is the Disney guy. You really seem to want to believe that enough people were complaining that the prime rib was taking up too much room on their plates that Disney made this change to improve the guest experience.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***According to Disney suits it was responding to guest preference. Of course since the suits wouldn't know the truth if it bit them it the butt, all reasonable people know that is an outright lie. [rolleyes]*** SuperDry said it best earlier in this thread, considering the long list of customer suggestions and complaints that Disney must be aware of, it's difficult in the extreme to swallow the idea that getting rid of prime rib was at the top of that list. If you want to believe that, good for you. As for me, I don't buy it for a second. Not with all the OTHER cost cutting measures we are seeing which are extremely obvious to the point of being "in your face". In this economy it's not surprising, it would just be nice if they didn't lay on a thick line of bull in an attempt to tell us, the paying public, that they are doing all of this because it'll make us love the place even more. It's highly insulting to our collective intelligence (except for those who can actually swallow it whole...amazingly there are some out there).
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Can't you even read???*** Sure he can. You're the one doing the selective quoting. ***The Disney guy said exactly what I quoted.*** In case you had trouble reading SuperDry's post above, DeGeorge is the Disney guy. So no, you left out the part where he does admit to cost cutting (in the slightest way possible), and then tried to "pin" the whole thing on that dummy blogger. You been taking debating lessons from DouglasDub lately or something?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<< DeGeorge says the strips are a little less expensive >>> DeGeorge is the Disney guy.>> He said the strips were a little less expensive (and from what I've seen it is very little). He DID NOT SAY it was the reason for the change. Is the suit maybe not telling the truth about the reason for the change? Who knows? My point is, was, and forever shall be that DISNEY did not say the reason for the change was cost savings.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< He said the strips were a little less expensive (and from what I've seen it is very little). He DID NOT SAY it was the reason for the change. Is the suit maybe not telling the truth about the reason for the change? Who knows? My point is, was, and forever shall be that DISNEY did not say the reason for the change was cost savings.>>> Oh brother. Now we're getting the Doug technique used on us in the WDW section?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< You been taking debating lessons from DouglasDub lately or something? >>> I made my comment before reading the above - I swear! It's interesting that now that we know what it is, the technique stands out so clearly that we both recognized it even when used outside of it's normal context.
