If that is the case then I apologize, but, you weren't really clear on your stand there. BTW, the you was general, I never really want to attack an individual unless their statement is so outlandish that it has to be responded to and not just ignored. It's more of a, if the shoe fits type of statement. Both of us need to be more clear on where we stand on these things when it isn't then all of us are being sucked down into that huge orange twilight zone. I have to wonder if he were to be "run over by a hostile car" if his loyal followers would say... Well, there was fault on "many sides", "many sides". In that situation it would probably be true.