Originally Posted By DAR What scandal?* *Not as in there is no scandal, as in I'm not familiar with it. Just thought I'd clarify.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Same here. I suspect it has to do with how bad this has made Fox News look, running with some teabagger hatchet job on Ms. Sherrod without doing any fact checking before reporting the story. Yes... the USDA is especially guilty for jumping to conclusions about what the teabagger and Fox were reporting, without digging deeper to see if the story was true. But what Breitbart and the Fox commentators did was reprehensible and thoroughly disgusting. They are not "journalists" by a long shot. True journalists fact-check their stories before running with them. Breitbart and then Fox deliberately painted this woman to be a racist in order to score points with their conservative bigoted base/target audience. Fox News has done character assassination jobs like this before: Rev. Wright, Van Jones, ACORN, the NAACP, and Sonia Sotomayor. This attack on Sherrod is just one of many that have come before. I don't recall MSNBC deliberately presenting false information or severely misrepresenting information in order to trash someone's reputation to score political points. Fox News' personalities do it all the time. So yeah... count me as one of those who look critically upon someone who constantly watches this type of Trash TV.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Well for starters there's Breitbart (maybe you recall that his blog was first posted the infamous ACORN videos last year) and Fox News who possibly knew that the Sherrod clip was edited before it was aired. Then there's the Obama administration and the NAACP who fell for what appears to be a right wing political stunt. Finally, we have Shirley Sherrod, who lost her job for something that she did not do because of a right wing smear campaign. From the Rachel Maddow Show: "Rachel Maddow looks at the full context of Shirley Sherrod's comments and points out the spinelessness of the White House in buying into yet another Fox News/Breitbart smear job and how, like feeding a dog from the table, handing heads to the right wing only encourages the use of dishonest tactics." <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/38335268#38335268" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26...38335268</a>
Originally Posted By DAR <<True journalists fact-check their stories before running with them>> Kind of like Dan Rather.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I don't recall MSNBC deliberately presenting false information or severely misrepresenting information in order to trash someone's reputation to score political points. Fox News' personalities do it all the time." This was not an attack on Sherrod. This was payback to the NAACP for calling the Tea Party movement "racist". Brietbart has gone on record as saying so. I believe that he and Fox were well aware that the video was edited. It was an attempt to attack the NAACP and the Obama Administration and both organizations fell for it. Now Fox is questioning the Administration's judgment for pressuring her to resign without doing the proper examination and evaluation of the facts.
Originally Posted By Labuda "<<True journalists fact-check their stories before running with them>> Kind of like Dan Rather." Note that Dan Rather lost his job over that story. No one at Faux News is likely to lose their job over this.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Good catch, DAR. Dan Rather was supposed to be The Perfect Journalist. He was never supposed to make any mistakes whatsoever. He made one, however, a really big nasty mistake, which cost him his decades-old career. But Fox News journalists get a free pass. They can deliberately run stories with false information time after time after time after time and never get fired. They're allowed to make mistakes because God forgives their mistakes. Like the Blues Brothers, they're on a mission from God. Other journalists, especially those that lean to the left like MSNBC personalities, however, make baby Jesus cry. They get no free pass, no margin for error AT ALL. Dan Rather... you made one mistake by not fact-checking your sources. Sorry... you lose. Bye-bye. Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Laura Ingraham... keep on truckin' kids. Keep running those falsified heavily biased character assassination stories. Keep up the good work! Praise God for your heroic efforts at bringing down the evil socialist empire which Obama hath begotten! Dan Rather made one mistake and ran false info. It cost him his job. The Fox News people make them all the time, deliberately, and never get called on it except by progressive pundits and MSNBC personalities. Way to equate the two, DAR.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Sorry, but what you did was inexcusable. Trying to equate what Fox does over and over and over again, with malice and forethought, is NOT equal to the mistake that Rather made. Yet, that's what you were implying by attacking me for criticizing "journalists" who repeatedly refuse to fact-check their stories before running with them, as Fox is infamous for doing, in order to push a specific political agenda. Dan Rather was a good journalist, a total professional. He had a sterling reputation, decades of award-winning experience as a respected journalist, a true journalist, who made one mistake. You want to throw all of that away, all of his hard work and recognition, because of one stupid bone-headed mistake. Just to prove some dumb point that wasn't worth trashing the man to make. Conservative wingnut media types can't begin to hold a candle to Dan Rather. They wish they could, some of them even believe they do. But they never will. And it really sickens me for anyone to even remotely suggest that they can, and do.
Originally Posted By DAR <<Sorry, but what you did was inexcusable.>> I made a comment on a Disney message board.
Originally Posted By DAR And you know every now and then, don't get so full of yourself. Humbleness is a virtue that escapes you.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The best thing about this story is that perhaps a few more people will start to question breitbart's right wing spin sites. He represents exactly what's wrong in this country and the sooner he and his ilk are ignored completely, the better.
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Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I think Dan Rather and his producer deserved to lose their jobs over what they did. They ignored the advice of experts and ran with a story anyway. It blew up in their faces spectacularly because they were so sure they were right that they made cub reporter-style errors in judgement. It wasn't a mistake, it was hubris and bias. But I do agree that dozens of people at Fox News get away with that sort of garbage on a daily basis and it is just flat wrong. It is a double standard that shouldn't be tolerated by a legitimate news organization, nor its viewers.
Originally Posted By mele 2oony, get out of WE...you're supposed to be enjoying your birthday! Get out while you can, man!
Originally Posted By DAR <<I think Dan Rather and his producer deserved to lose their jobs over what they did. They ignored the advice of experts and ran with a story anyway. It blew up in their faces spectacularly because they were so sure they were right that they made cub reporter-style errors in judgement. It wasn't a mistake, it was hubris and bias.>> I didn't think I made a personal attack. All I responded to was the statement that good journalists fact check. How that is a personal attack is beyond me. <<But I do agree that dozens of people at Fox News get away with that sort of garbage on a daily basis and it is just flat wrong. It is a double standard that shouldn't be tolerated by a legitimate news organization, nor its viewers.>> Yep they do, which is why they're no longer on my channels. But let's not act like the rest of the news media should be looked upon as saints.
