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    Originally Posted By DLFAN79

    From yesterdays announcement comes this from Marcie at Mouseinfo

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    My concern is where the maintenance department ends up. Will Matt still have control of the paint budget and where that paints gets applied? Will he still have control of the refurbs like Tiki Room redo? The little "plus" projects like Jungle Cruise?




    Unfortunately, Matt no longer oversees that area as well. Facilities at DLR now reports to WDW.

    Everything i suspected is true. WDW wants to 'kill" DL for its benefit.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <,Everything i suspected is true. WDW wants to 'kill" DL for its benefit.>>

    Yea, that would be it. [rolleyes]
     
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    Originally Posted By Goofyernmost

    Can you imagine the enthusiasm that he must have for real problems? Must be mind boggling!
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <<,Everything i suspected is true. WDW wants to 'kill" DL for its benefit.>>

    Yea, that would be it. [rolleyes]
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    Yeah, they are separate companies right ? oh brother....

    Myabe that's why Weiss is now over everything.....
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORGOCH: Sure wish them their gods would let a witch from Morva turn ol' Al inta a TOAD!!

    ORWEN: I thought he already was one.
     
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    Originally Posted By Disneydanny

    Tiki Room redo?? Oh no. DON'T tell me DL is changing THEIR show.
     
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    Originally Posted By danyoung

    ^^ Nope - DL's room just went through an extensive refurb. The original statement went "Will he still have control of the refurbs like Tiki Room redo?" I think that meant will Matt have control like he did during the Tiki Room redo.

    English - what a tricky language!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    >>WDW wants to 'kill" DL for its benefit.<<

    Stealing their anniversary is a good start I guess.
     
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    Originally Posted By Goofyernmost

    From what I saw on my visit to DL this October it is far from dead. The crowds were massive and the quality inside was great.

    It is foolish to say that WDW is trying to kill DL. What in the name of heaven would be the purpose. It's all the same company. It doesn't make sense on any level other than DLFAN's incredibly hyper sense of drama. DL is a legend. It doesn't require the promotion that WDW does. It gets "shut the gates" business without it. You don't spend mega advertising bucks where it isn't needed. On the other hand, it takes a lot of people to fill up WDW.
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    >> What in the name of heaven would be the purpose. It's all the same company <<

    >> it takes a lot of people to fill up WDW <<

    Well said.
     
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    Originally Posted By gaston lives

    It only makes sense that WDW adn the other parks are horking profits from DL's anniversary. Some people prefer different parks, and others can't get to other parks, but they want to celebrate, too.

    I don't go to Europe or Asia, but I go to Orlando a lot. I was happy to be able to feel like a part of the party.

    It's also a great marketing ploy from a company standpoint...higher profit margins all the way around and not just a spike at one park.
     
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    Originally Posted By Witches of Morva

    ORDDU: Now, if only the company would be more willing to spend those 'higher profits' on the parks--instead of acting like they're ready to go bankrupt by making budget cut-backs to this, that and everything else.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    >>I was happy to be able to feel like a part of the party.<<

    But don't you feel cheated by being at WDW celebrating DL's milestone?? Honestly... when I visited DL thi spast July, the feeling of celebration was genuine...but at WDW, this celebration comes off phoney and too engineered for me to really validate it.

    >>It's also a great marketing ploy from a company standpoint...higher profit margins all the way around and not just a spike at one park.<<

    I disagree... no other Disney park is benefiting from DL's 50th aniversary except WDW. TDL for example did not need this because they do their usual special events and such on an ongoing basis with or without DL's celebration. As for DLP and HKDL...not much is going on there to acknowledge DL's 50th. So, only WDW is benefitting from all this. Not even DCA is getting higher numbers due to DL's 50th!!!
     
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    Originally Posted By planodisney

    Facilities at DLR will not be reporting to WDW, that was just a plain stupid comment by Marcie who was just upset about the whole situation.

    Al Weiss will oversee all Disney Parks, and, I assume, will probably have his office in california.

    He is staying on as interem president of WDW, but will be replaced.

    MAJOR over reaction by Marcie.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dis-Philip

    PLEASE STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE ALL THE TIME, TDLFAN! IT HAS BECOME VERY ANNOYING!!!

    I understand and respect your opinions, but you're getting waaaaaaaaaay out of hand with what you're saying...and saying it all too much.

    Instead of complaining on these boards all the time, why don't you go write letters to Disney expressing your concerns and feelings about the flaws that you've been seeing and feeling with the US Disney parks, especially WDW?
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<PLEASE STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE ALL THE TIME, TDLFAN! IT HAS BECOME VERY ANNOYING!!!>>

    1) TDLFAN is a flight attendant, so he gets to see all kinds of stuff at minimal cost that the rest of us can only dream about.

    2) TDLFAN is a character as much as he is a person, and his character is a curmudgeon.

    3) If TDLFAN ever said anything good about WDW we would suspect he had been replaced by a pod person.

    4) If TDLFAN ever said anything good about Minnesota we would suspect he had been replaced by a pod person.

    5) He is without a doubt the best looking guy in Orlando, so who are we to judge??
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    >> But don't you feel cheated by being at WDW celebrating DL's milestone?? <<

    Not at all. I think it's mostly us more aware Disney purists that notice such things. I keep coming back that this is all part of the same company for cripes sake. It's not like WDW is a separate entity that's in business competition with DLR.

    The same people that complain that WDW is "stealing" DLR's day here would be complaining about WDW's apathy if WDW paid no special attention to DLR at all.
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    >> Not even DCA is getting higher numbers due to DL's 50th!!! <<

    But I don't think that was part of the plan. Do you?

    >> 4) If TDLFAN ever said anything good about Minnesota we would suspect he had been replaced by a pod person. <<

    No THAT'S funny.
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    Ooops. That's supposed to be

    Now THAT'S funny.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    As far as the 50th celebration coming off as being fake at WDW-- isn't WDW a place where imagination takes over and reality leaves anyway.
    For those of us who know and care that it is DLR's 50th - we should be able to look past any inconsistencies -- and for the majority of people there, they really don;t know anyway, so I don;t see how it is hurting them.

    Anything that brings a little 'extra' to WDW works for me for the most part so that there is a spark - something new - etc -- ( kinda like Star Wars Weekends / Flower Power Concerts / Soap Opera Weekends / and now ESPN weekends.

    Last night on PBS ( it is pledge time here ) - they had a special on Jim Brickman @ the Magic Kingdom -- and while watching - during the pledge break this woman told people it was the 50th anniversary of Walt Disney World and Disney. Now at first I didn't know where to even start with this as it was wring on so many levels. But then I realized that 999 / 1000 never caught that mistake......so I had to just let it go......
     

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