Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: Well, I still cain't believe what the Heck us Cauldron gals went 'n seen last Saturday night at Tragic Kingdom, ducklin's. It all took place in Ta-morraland--whilst we was comin' outta the Buzzard Lightbeer ride. ORWEN: I have to admit I was embarrassed, too. ORGOCH: There we was--gittin' ready ta buy one a them pictures they has ta sell ya, if'n ya wants ta shell out that kind a cash, anyways. Anyways, we was standin' at the counter--waitin' fer the silly gal on the other side ta acknowledge us--when she starts jokin' round with some other gal 'bout the dif'rence in their work hours. ORWEN: Then this male cast member walks over to them-- ORGOCH: --an' that's when I 'bout dropped my dang jaw ta the floor. Right there in front a the Good Lord an' fer all the rest of us ta see, the one trampy gal goes 'n slaps the feller on his behind--makin' some kind a smutty remark at the same time!! I still cain't believe what happened. Don't they tell cast members not ta act that way in public? 'Spec'ly when they's got guests standin' there ta see 'n hear what they's a doin'? ORWEN: I have a feeling that the female cast member could have been fired on the spot for such sexual overtones like that. ORGOCH: If'n ya notice, sister Orddu ain't 'round ta say nothin' bout THIS one. That's cause she knows she'd look like a dang hypocrite if'n she dared say anything agin' the gal workin' at Buzzard LightBeer's Space Rangers. ORWEN: Anyway, we were just appalled by the behavior of this particular cast member and couldn't help wondering if this is just one more example of what happens when you either shorten or completely take away the Traditions class they used to have at the parks.
Originally Posted By Crazy4WDW You have got to be kidding me! That is unbelievable. I'm sure had a manager seen her she would have been fired on the spot. I'm surprised the male cast member did not file sexual harassment charges against her!
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>I'm surprised the male cast member did not file sexual harassment charges against her!<< Is that a joke? I don't know about the firing on the spot, it depends on what she said.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, it was sort of hard to hear exactly what she was mumbling. But she certainly had a lurid smile on her face. Not something you'd expect to see in Sunday School, I'm sure. ORGOCH: An' the poor feller who got it on his rump roast just seemed ta not know what ta say er how ta react. He stood there for a few seconds--like he needed ta think 'bout what ta do next--an' then took off behind a closed door.
Originally Posted By Crazy4WDW Just for the fact that the cm smacked another cm on the behind is enough for filing . . . "inappropriate touching".
Originally Posted By BlazesOfFire That was inappropriate for sure! Friends or not, however their personal relationship is, theyre are work and are expected to act more professional.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORGOCH: Well, I sure as @#$% would!! They don't come any more trashy than her!!!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Well, one thing I'd like to know is what--if anything--has taken the place of the former Traditions Class that tries so hard to teach cast members the best way to act while on stage?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<we would never call you trash>> we might think it, but we would never say it.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider I'm not saying it's not inappropraite just I don't think it's necessarily a fire-on-the-spot situation. It's not fora Disney park though, although it is a generally accepted way to congratulate someone ona job well done - just not in all places this probably being one of them.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 That 'generally accepted' way of congratulations you say will get you fired on the spot in many businesses -- and could bring a sexual harassment lawsuit against the person and the company ( for allowing a hostile enviroment as they would call it to exist and be acceptable if they did nothing about it). It may be acceptable on the football field between two guys -- but it certainly is not acceptable in business or the public
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "Don't they tell cast members not ta act that way in public?" Don't parents tell their children not to act that way in public?
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >>It may be acceptable on the football field between two guys -- but it certainly is not acceptable in business or the public<< I agree about business but in public as a whole I don't see it as such. And for sexual harassment I think most things considered "Sexual Harassment" are a joke. I can understand this being a case of sexual harassment but if you're doing it to someone who you are unsure of their reaction then sexual harassment wouldn't be the first thing on my mind - it'd be battery. Anyway I'm not saying it's acceptable here I'm just saying I don't think it warrants the reaction of "Fire her ON THE SPOT" - you're talking about a rather innocent, albeit innappropriate for the situation, gesture.
Originally Posted By JHelba I am rather high level in a massive company and that actually isn't grounds for an immediate termination, except in certain "right to work" states. Proper channels have to be followed, including counselling and a paper trail. Imagine if the guy was new and hadn't received his orientation training or even if signatures were missing that he was trained. The same goes for sueing over sexual harrassment, there are channels to follow you can't just sue willy-nilly. In a case like that she'd first have to verbally tell the person that its innapropriate and/or inform supervision. Then what actually transpired is taken into account, some harrassment is far worse. Although YOU could actually file a suit but it would probably result in nothing more than Disney being forced to do more training on their staff. You'd have to actually prove that you were so offended that your life was negatively altered by what you witnessed.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider ^ Exactly. Besides is a girl patting a guy on the bottom for what seems to have been a very brief moment really that disturbing to you that you'd want someone to lose their job? That's kind of harsh...
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I don't know about Florida, but in Georgia it is a CRIME to "pat" someone on the butt. And that is grounds for immediate termination at the company I work for ( a major phone company ).
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I am rather high level in a massive company and that actually isn't grounds for an immediate termination, except in certain "right to work" states< ditto with background to you ( Fortune 10 here ) -- and as you well know it all depends on the state and the verocity with which the plaintiff pursues action. Yes, rarely will a company play in the penalty portion of the judgement, but the costs internally end up being staggering - whether it actually gets to a legal department / just results in internal investigation / resolution involves actions plans with enormous paper trails for x period of time /or let's take worse case scenario the plaintiff resigns due to mental stress and then tries to tie work performance to the 'hostile environment' - seeking penalty upon leaving. Now do I think that would happen from this -no. Do I think if the wrong person at the wrong time scenario applies, that it could cost untold time and monies. yes-- and it has in cases. Some of the most blatant cases I have seen get resolved with less issue than some of what would appear to be frivolous claims. But they all get the same treatment as no company wants to have themselves attached to it-- least of all a customer service company. You also can't afford a history of claims, regardless of how small they seem. So Mr Toad, I understand what you are saying but trust me they are not a joke when they are filed. Far from it.
