Originally Posted By ChiMike <a href="http://imagineerebirth.blogspot.com/2008/09/yesterday-today-and-tomorrow.html" target="_blank">http://imagineerebirth.blogspo...row.html</a> I know this is about a week old but I found it to be a fascinating read as I do most of their stuff. Pretty much agree from beginning to end. I implore you to read the entire article, but this excerpt led me to think of something in the best way to keep Tomorrowland fresh: >>Keep what works, then PLUS it. Wouldn’t Walt have wanted to do both? That's what the company ALWAYS did in those times. They never threw away the past, only added to it. They brought along the best and built forward from it. What is the new experience or two? Well, that's the fun part to dream up for today’s Imagineers - - But it should be flashy and memorable, exceed expectations, thrill us - - and grow out of the consistent theme, taking us to an experiential and design plane we haven't yet visited - - or provide a visceral experience that is lacking in other attractions and areas at the park. And it should be artistically beautiful and modern. And all within the parameters of established theme. Disneyland should always be a complementary platter of Past, Future, Fact and Fantasy, Nostalgia and Challenge in all its angles, a unified timeline with a running theme. The recipe for the future is on the dedication plaque. Go back? Go forward? Do both.< With rumors of Stitch eventually heading to the Tiki Room and Sulley heading to MGM, there will be two large holes at the front of Tomorrowland. I hope one-day WDI will have the collective brain power to dream up something more sophisticated than a Jerry Lewis gag and install something special in the MK's TL.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I think David Lyman had some really neat ideas. I loved the idea of tube travel and the layering of attractions. tomorrow land could use new ideas. Really it is very small with few attractions. But, I have to add that I like what is there. Buzz, space mountain and the laugh floor are must sees for my family. Didn't care much for the stitch ride. We didn't even ride it last year. we also like the astro orbiter because the view is great. The problem I see at WDW is where would you expand TL? Isn't it sort of landlocked? That's why I wonder: Could you go up?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I believe the difficulty with TL in WDW is that you have EPCOT which really should be the premier showcase for inovation. I really don't have a problem with TL showcasing new things as long as it had more of a slant toward entertainment. As far as landlocked. There is still some land available in TL outside of the WDW Railroad tracks adjecent to Space Mountain. I just don't want to see The Indy Speed Way chipped away. As far as vacant spaces go you still have the unused area above the bathrooms aside the Space Mountain enterance Quonset Hut ( formly space used for the Skyway ). In my opinion the grandstand area is a complete waste of dedicated space. I know the bandstand gets used but its infrequent. TL is typically a very busy part of WDW part. Its a shame its not more utilitzed with additional rides and attractions. Oh, and if you go to TL now you can't help but notice the Bay Towers DVC looming over TL. Looking up at the Contemporary Hotel justed added to the TL experience. Looking at that huge monstrocity of the Baylake Towers DVC in my opinion makes me feel like I'm in playground next to Co-op City.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad Tom, I agree. I don't want the speedway altered either. My family loves the old stuff as much as the new. the speedway is a slow loader so we always catch it during extra magic hours. Is the carousel of progress still open beside the stage? That could be a good place to expand. I don't think disney will go outside the railroad. Also if they build up they could obscure the view of the looming dvc tower.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad TL needs a wow factor. Something that represents what could happen in the future. I would even take a ride like peter pan or pooh that is visually stimulating or the random ride like I hear is in Tokyo Disneyland where there is no track. These types of rides wouldn't even take up great amount of space.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Hello CarolinaDisneyDad. I recently visited WDW two weeks ago and Carousel of Progress was infact open! So, myself as well as my friends decided to ride this attraction. For my friends this was their first time experiencing CoP. They as well as most everyone else experiencing CoP ( our room was a good half full ) seemed pleased. I think most people enjoyed it. Its a great show and althought maybe not extremely popular there didn't seem to be any vocal objection to this attraction that my party experienced on Stitch. This attraction in my opinion truely is perfect for TL.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I love CoP, one of the finest attractions Disney has ever made IMHO. It's sad that may fav attractions at the MK were all created before 1977 with the exception of Splash.
Originally Posted By brotherdave Big Thunder Mountain not a favorite, Dave? That opened in 1980. Just curious...
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I like TL, its my favorite part of the MK to be in after dark. Still, I think there can be some improving.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad We always go in the fall and many years carousel of progess is closed. After listening to you guys though I'm going to have to try it too. Boy, I'm going to have to get a bigger piece of paper for my to do list.LOL. I wasn't suggesting closing it. I just can't recall it running while I was there. I still lament that I didn't get to ride Mr. Toad. or 20,000, so I never want good old attractions to close. But, just like every Disney lover I want more. I know it's not realistic but we all get to dream.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad And yes, I know its kind of silly to yell more when I am still finding stuff I haven't done yet. Oh well.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And yes, I know its kind of silly to yell more when I am still finding stuff I haven't done yet. Oh well. << It's not silly of you at all. Learning all the small, and new things to do really make each trip more enjoyable. I try to pick something new to try or to find every trip. For the longest I was obsessed with taking pictures of fountains at all the parks, and resorts at WDW. Another year it was all the different trash cans. All of that may sound weird to some people, but I kind of found it fun to do. However you enjoy WDW is entirely up to you.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<For the longest I was obsessed with taking pictures of fountains at all the parks, and resorts at WDW.>> Now you can take pictures of all the fountains that have been shut off and stuffed with potted plants and trash instead! <<Another year it was all the different trash cans. All of that may sound weird to some people, but I kind of found it fun to do.>> Much better to go through the trash of mid-level Disney managers. Val Bunting throws out some really wacky stuff! <<However you enjoy WDW is entirely up to you.>> I enjoy it in many spirited ways ...
Originally Posted By mickey_ring In Tomorrowland, I would like to see SGE retro-changed back to Flight to the Moon. Sort of a Mission:Space for the age 3 to 8 set. I was 7 when I first saw that and took that stuff seriously. It should be an easy change, the interior of that building hasn't changed since it was new.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Now you can take pictures of all the fountains that have been shut off and stuffed with potted plants and trash instead! << That's very upsetting to hear. Of all the years I've been there the only fountain, I remember, that failed to work while not receiveing maintanence was the fountain just North of Casey's at the MK. >> Much better to go through the trash of mid-level Disney managers. Val Bunting throws out some really wacky stuff! << I had heard that all of the WM people knew you by name in Orlando!
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Since trash cans aren't what they use to be at WDW, your pictures might be worth something! I use to like checking them out to see how they fit in with their surroundings. Now they're just trash cans.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<That's very upsetting to hear. Of all the years I've been there the only fountain, I remember, that failed to work while not receiveing maintanence was the fountain just North of Casey's at the MK.>> Yeah. That fountain is actually working again. It seems to be not working for six months at a time, followed by working for 2-3 months and then repeat. The fountains that have become planters are all over the place, most notably in Adventureland. <<I had heard that all of the WM people knew you by name in Orlando! >> You'd be surprised. I am known in all sorts of circles ...
