Originally Posted By Malin Legend of Mythica finishes on September the 7th 2014. Is this the end of the Tokyo DisneySea day-time show or will Steve Davison and his team at Disney along with the OLC be working on something else to fill the gap in the entertainment schedule. I think it's fair to assume the barges will be kept backstage for future use in the seasonal shows such as Halloween and Christmas. But can we look forward to something else in time for the 15th Anniversary of DisneySea in 2016?
Originally Posted By leemac It is unlikely that there will be any immediate replacement - the park will have Halloween and Christmas following the final performance and therefore the logic is that Mythica won't be missed. OLC are not convinced that the cost of developing and running a daytime show for the lagoon is justified. They do have a point - Mythica proved that it was possible to use the scale of the lagoon properly but the operating costs are prohibitively high for their current thinking.
Originally Posted By Malin Thanks Lee, shame that's the OLC's way of thinking at the moment. Perhaps we'll see something new in time for the 15th Anniversary. But possibly scaled down from Mythica. Glad I'll at least be over to see the last few performances later in the year.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros How do the operating costs of Mythica compare to Fantasmic!? I guess they're probably more prone to spend some extra money for a 'nightcap' type show, but I can't imagine that the two would be significantly differe (if anything, it seems like Mythica should be slightly cheaper). I guess that's the danger of having multiple big-budget shows in the same venue: one of them is bound to get cut eventually
Originally Posted By leemac <<How do the operating costs of Mythica compare to Fantasmic!? >> F!'s op budget is many times smaller than Mythica. Mythica's performing cast is gigantic - largest ever used in any Disney theme park. The technical crew is also larger although by a smaller measure. It is a very expensive show to run.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Wow, I had no idea it was so big! Does the "largest cast" include things like parades, which often have nearly 100 performers? That's a huge production indeed! I'll definitely need to check it out this summer!
Originally Posted By SuperDry It's so huge you can't really even see it in one showing, unlike a parade. There's an up-close show that takes place at five different spots along the shore, each with its own seating area (sit down on the pavement, that is). Then there's a "medium" show that you can see from most places along the shore that's not already taken with one of the show stop areas. There's also a "bird's eye" view of the show that is best seen from above while on the Fortress (you can also see it from the Ponte Vecchio bridge, the best viewing spots have terrible sound). When viewing the show from any of those three vantage points, you get the sense that the entire show was designed with just that view in mind, and each presents a very different view to the show. They definitely took full advantage of the venue.
Originally Posted By SuperDry It's somewhat ironic that they are cutting back on Mythica due to cost, just a couple of years after dumping BraviSEAmo! for F!. I would imagine that F! is more expensive to run than B! was, as with B! they only had to pay Mickey for about 5 minutes at the beginning and the rest was character-less and performer-less. Plus they had the up-front cost to switch the show over. If they really want to cut back on show expenses, may I suggest they dump F! and bring back B!? That would at least partly make up for the loss of Mythica, and would save money too!
Originally Posted By leemac <<Plus they had the up-front cost to switch the show over.>> Ah but those costs are capitalised and amortised over the life of the show. Much easier to explain than opex! OLC are in a tough place - need to demonstrate earnngs growth as a public company in a tough economic environment where their target audience is dwindling and earns less in real terms.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Does the "largest cast" include things like parades, which often have nearly 100 performers? That's a huge production indeed!>> Yup - no need to go into specifics but it is larger than any parade ever staged. I'm bias on this one but IMHO it is the greatest Disney theme park show in history.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>It's so huge you can't really even see it in one showing, unlike a parade.<< Wow, that description sounds pretty crazy. I knew there were land-based performers, but I never even thought about how the various locations would give you a different feeling based on what was going on behind you Realisitically, I'll probably only have one chance (maaaaaaybe 2) to watch the show: where would you guys recommend watching from? Most of the photos I've seen are from the amphitheater next to Ponte Vecchio, so that was likely going to be my default. And how early would I need to get there to get a decent view?
Originally Posted By SuperDry I think you got it - the amphitheater is the best. As far as time, it depends on how crowded it is that day, how close you want to be, and if you want to stand or sit. In general, I'd recommend arriving 30 minutes before on a light attendance day, or 60 minutes on a busy summer day. Seeing that that trip will be your only opportunity to see Mythica, you might want to be on the safe side and get there earlier than you otherwise would - everything else will be there next time (unless they continue on their TDS dismantlement project which they seem to have started). If you get to see it a second time, then go for the macro view from the Fortress. They do make it difficult for those with a limited time to visit the resort, as the regular daytime parade at TDL is performed only once per day and always seems to run at the same time or within 30 minutes of Mythica, such that there's no way to see both on the same day. The same goes for Dreamlights and F!.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros We're planning at least 2 days at TDR (one for each park), so we should be okay in that department. I'm just worried about how crazy the crowds will be during our visit, since it will be in July. I've read that the earlier part of the month is less bad, but we're preparing for the worst
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "OLC are in a tough place - need to demonstrate earnngs growth as a public company in a tough economic environment where their target audience is dwindling and earns less in real terms." Sounds familiar, and proves once again that dazzling growth at any given themed resort can't go on forever.
Originally Posted By Brad I swear to God I was at TDS for three days and did not know this was on! I'm not a huge show person anyway so I don't feel I missed anything but man, that is SO not like me to not even know about it. I DID watch a youtube video and had to actually ask TDLFAN what in the hell was going on. Lots of floats that look like ancient creatures and the typical TDS style overblown opera costumes on the rubberheads. Meh.
