Originally Posted By jdub Saw a new Disney tin can at Best Buy yesterday-- have you watched the cartoons yet? New soundtracks, and a cool little pin (and of course, Leonard Maltin--has he ever met a Disney film he didn't LUV?) My question is--is it a one-time view? I'd rather Netflix the whole lot than spend 20 bucks for the tiny pin I'll eventually lose anyhow!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan It was interesting that the tins are gold instead of silver. I'll probably get it, but I'm an animation fan and haven't ever seen any of the Oswald cartoons. I also saw at the Disney Store they have these canvases with sketchy portraits of a character on each of them, and Oswald was one in the mix.
Originally Posted By jdub He's the long-lost adopted-out older brother... Notice the slightly-uncomfortable looks on everyone's faces. Mickey is taking it well, but he drinks. This is not altogether unlike when Snow White & Gulliver used to run into each other at awards ceremonies.
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Yeah, it's part of Wave 7 of the Walt Disney Treasures. I don't think you can Netflix any of the Treasures. I wouldn't worry about Oswald being sold out, as I mentioned in the other thread. Everyone's going for Donald and Disneyland.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Leonard Maltin--has he ever met a Disney film he didn't LUV?<< He slammed "Ten Who Dared" in his book "The Disney Films."
Originally Posted By jdub Well, the results are in: "According to All Movie Guide, critics consistently rate this as one of the worst movies made by Disney." --Yeesh! I wonder what the All Movie Guide has to say about "Home on the Range?"
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo >I wouldn't worry about Oswald being sold out, as I mentioned in the other thread. Everyone's going for Donald and Disneyland.< Not everyone! I got Oswald as well as Donald & Disneyland, 5BR!
Originally Posted By TheRedhead "Everyone's going for Donald and Disneyland." I don't get this. Why? Aren't the people buying the DVD's Disney fanatics, and not casual DVD buyers? As a Disney fan, isn't Oswald a billion times more interesting than stuff we've seen on Vault Disney and a third Donald set (spoiler alert: I hear in this volume, Donald gets flustered).
Originally Posted By mawnck Because nobody knows Oswald. Everybody knows Donald and Disneyland. The end. I haven't watched some of the Oswald toons yet, and none of the other two, but I'm somewhat dismayed by what I'm finding, quality-wise. I think the folks in home video figured (correctly) that everybody would cut the Oswalds a ton of slack because of their age, 'cause it looks to me like they were pulling at least some of them from previously available DVD sources - some good, some not so good. In other words, of course they won't look perfect, but they could have looked a lot better than they do. I'll have to give it a closer inspection when I get a chance (in March, the way things are lookin') but I strongly suspect one of the 'toons, allegedly sourced from the original negative, is actually from a banged-up print (Shades of the 2nd Silly Symphonies set?). And I can report with 100% certainty that at least one of the new soundtracks is in mono for no reason. QC, guys! QC, QC, QC!!!
Originally Posted By jdub It's settled--I'm getting it! Just read a review in my paper, and it convinced me. Between the roots of Mickey aspect, then the fact that there are the first two Mickey toons, AND some of the old "Out of the Inkwell"--OOPS! I mean, the Disney takeoff version, the "Alice" cartoons! Plus, of course, the previously-mentioned cool little pin... NICE SET!
Originally Posted By ShivaThDestroyer I think you'll like it. We gave it to the Clones (iamsally and Mr. sally) as part of their Christmas gift. They really seem to like it. You can sure see where Mickey came from in the early Oswald cartoons.
Originally Posted By jdub That's a nice gift. Now I feel bad... I bought everyone on MY list "Snakes on a Train."
Originally Posted By mawnck On closer inspection (with better equipment) . . . I'm probably wrong about the banged-up print. It could very well be a banged-up original negative as they said. (I was referring to "All Wet.") I was very unimpressed with the quality of "Rival Romeos", but after closer inspection I think it's probably one of those rock-and-a-hard-place situations where the only print was SO fried that they could either leave it looking dreadful or filter the living bejeepers out of it and have it look grainy and ghostly. They chose the latter. I'm in no position to second-guess that decision. "Tall Timber" though . . . definitely not a Disney transfer. Serious underscan (obviously) and the only toon with out-of-spec video levels. On the plus side, I think it's the only one (AHEM!) that runs at the correct speed of 18 fps instead of the sound-film speed of 24 fps. And yes, the soundtrack for "Bright Lights" is still inexplicably in mono.
Originally Posted By dshyates Where you do QC work or FtoT transfer. You seem to have a little more than base knowledge. Simply the fact you can tell the dif between 18 and 24 frame is interesting. And yes the mono track appears to be a sloppy mistake. I would have gotten fired if I had turned out a Duplication Master with a mono track for a client as big as Disney.
Originally Posted By Jim I really enjoyed the cartoons. It's interesting to hear how they got the prints, which is discussed on one of the commentary tracks. They are very cute and charming. In many ways, they are better than the Mickeys that followed them.
Originally Posted By basil fan Redhead, I get your point, but did you have to dis Donald's cartoons to make it? I for one am delighted that his 3rd set is out. Saying his shorts are all alike makes *you* sound like one of the "casual DVD buyers." Basil of Baker Street <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/basil/bakerst.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ basil/bakerst.html</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck dshyates, email me at the address in my profile. We're allowed to dis cartoons in here, I hope. Even Donald's. It's generally accepted that Disney shorts tended to rely WAY to much on frustration gags - even by the animators that worked on them. And that goes double for the Donald Ducks.
Originally Posted By TheRedhead Seriously. I would imagine Donald can take a little criticism. I'm not running out and buying the third Donald set because it does not excite me. I have 4 discs of Donald, and though I love him, it's the same gag for a lot of his shorts. This ends up being my (only) gripe with these Treasures Sets - it's too much of a good thing. I can't sit down and watch 14 Donald cartoons together. They all start to blend. And the OCD completist in me wants to just finish the discs. Same with Pluto and the different phases of Goofy. I would love a shuffle feature where I could mix them all up. It's funny - I seem to have more fun with Hardy Boys marathons or Swamp Fox marathons or Silly Symphony marathons. If that makes me a "casual DVD buyer" I'd hate to meet one of the nerds!
