Originally Posted By bean The astro orbitor or other spinners like it are extremely popular with families and children. I do think it should be moved to the old Cosmic waves location. There is plenty of room there and still allow for plenty of walking apace around it. More space could be added if the small ugly pre-queue for HISTA is removed. A new small queue could then be added on the south side of the astro orbitor facing space mountain. To tell you the truth i wold not mind a second spinner built ontop of the old platform. This would add another simple family attraction which would increase capacity to the land. It would also give a slight older crowd the thrill of spinning once again up high over tomorrowland.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<EighthDwarf - with your wish to remove AstroOrbitor and Autopia, I am guessing you never go with kids in tow.>> Actually, I usually go with my two young boys. I can't tell you the last time we went on either ride though.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<The astro orbitor or other spinners like it are extremely popular with families and children.>> Are they? (honest question) How is it measured? I know there are always queues, but that could be more a function of the low rider capacity than the ride's popularity. Families will wait 45 minutes to get on Peter Pan, but would they wait 45 minutes to get on the Astro Orbiter? I know mine wouldn't.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<I do think it should be moved to the old Cosmic waves location. There is plenty of room there and still allow for plenty of walking apace around it.>> I could live with that, especially if they did something more than just plopping it down there on the ground. Maybe a raised platform (1-story instead of 2) with some sort of water feature in/around/under it to keep the spirit of the Cosmic Waves.
Originally Posted By Mr F They are probably just looking at the space to get ideas for setting up a stage for a special event or something like that, nothing to do with Imagineering. I've seen Imagineers in the park and they NEVER wear suits.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "The astro orbitor or other spinners like it are extremely popular with families and children." Yes, but there are plenty of other diversions for children at DLR . Off the top my head I can think of at least two other very similar spinning rides on the property. The Astro Orbiter simply isn't needed.
Originally Posted By disneysnout The idea of taking it out DLR is really Ridiculous. Kids love it, families love it, its very popular. Dl is for people of all ages and that includes the little ones......
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Yes, but there are plenty of things there for little ones. It's not like it's the only ride of its kind at DLR.
Originally Posted By avromark No matter how off the shelf, I'm not for advocating removal without an addition that is at least equal to the subtraction. Relocation sure, adding a cheesy dark ride sure, but take it out and no replacement. That just sets the precedent further for removal without replacement. Oh and a Frie stand is not a recplacement for a ride Sorry iluv. (Although I appreciate good employees, we'll spare your cart if you still work in said position although by now I have a feeling if you still read this your in your chosen profession by now).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well there may be other spinners, but my son would rather ride in a rocket than Dumbo. And me as well!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Oh, I didn't know that the decision to keep or remove an attraction depended on the whims of you and your son. I don't mean to be rude, but seriously, if you want to ride in a spinning rocket that badly there's a very nice one over at DCA. I'm not advocating the removal of Astro Orbiter, but doing so would have little impact on the enjoyment of the park for visitors. There are plenty of other similar things at DLR to do.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well given it has been a tradition of generations, it makes it a hard call.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt You know, I'll have to say, that as a non-Southern California resident I will most likely never understand the relationship that locals have with Disneyland. It's just something that I don't think I can relate to.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well I was born in the Bay Area, but until Disney started to spiral in the last 10 years, it was a near religious obsession for me.
Originally Posted By SBSBelle22 I've never have and probably never will live in Cali... but I think religious obsession is a good way to put it. I don't know what they should do other than clear up the entrance. It seems like even on not so busy days that area is packed!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Well I was born in the Bay Area, but until Disney started to spiral in the last 10 years, it was a near religious obsession for me." Got it. Interestingly, I grew up in the Bay Area too, and I've always loved the parks, but I seem to lack the sacred reverence for DL that some people have. It's clear that we fans like Disneyland for different reasons. I tend to be less nostalgic about it than most people here I guess.
Originally Posted By Britain I don't care if things get replaced as long as they get replaced with improvements. When Disney makes missteps (Wands over Spaceship Earth, much of DCA, Rocket Rods) it is something that takes years, sometimes decades to fix! But for me, nothing is really sacred. Replace Sleeping Beauty Castle for all I care. I just want to see the place get better and better.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Astro Orbitor where Cosmic Waves is? Sorry ....... .. but I hope not! That attraction belongs in one place .. and one place only: On it's former "1967" perch. Anything else is a compromise. And Tomorrowland has had one too many compromises in it's history as it is!
Originally Posted By oc_dean Up high where it use to....... .. and the attraction's purpose is to get a sense of flight. You don't get "space age" flight only 10 feet above ground!! It's not NineteenHundredland .. it's called Tomorrowland.
