Originally Posted By dshyates The place is run by people who don't understand the product, who hire consultants who don't understand the product. With the singular goal being to please investors. For ten years they have been running her at a full gallup (profit margin wise), and sooner or later she will collapse under them. They simply don't understand what made Disney parks, Disney parks. The sad thing is that they will NEVER see the problems they created, they will just say the economy is the cause of all their problems. If they dont understand from the get-go what made them a great product to start with, then there is little hope in it returning. They have kept the nubers level by adding more and more freebies. Or as I like to say discounting the product without improving it. But by God, they have Condos, Condos, Condos. So head on down to Disney's Magical Condo Kingdom. And don't forget to vist Disney's newest attraction the magical Pleasure Island Ghostown. Where we ARE actually building a ride (not included with your parkhopper, so for a nominal fee you can ride a balloon. Ooohhh! a ballon ride, let me make my ressies today).
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Well, you have to first admit you have a problem in order to fix it. And if there's one thing you'll never get in a WDW exec it is the admission that anything they do is less than magical. Sure. It's all the economy. It's not the fact that for the past 15 years you've run the resort under a business model that considers anything and everything to be 'fat' (except, of course, an asburd tiered system of management that exists for no reason) and believes you invest as little as possible in the parks. Nope. It's the economy. Now, where are those plans for Disney's Grand Floridian Beach Villas? ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 We need to get rid of all the business men and bring on the company men. How do we do that? Is it feasible?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^Give me 60 days as a 'consultant' (paid, unlike the freebies they 'borrow' sans payment) and I could make the kind of changes needed. Hell, I could even pretend to like Jay Rasulo if it took that! ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted By MPierce >> This always scares me. It's like when my company sends down a memo saying not to worry that everything is alright with the company. Heck, I wasn't worried till I got this memo. << Could I get an AMEN!!!!!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think the best thing for the "Guest Experience" right now would be for the economy to turn-around so they can get back to the plans they had before the downturn << I think the best thing for the guest experience is for TWDC to turn it's back on their ever increasing greedy nature, and concentrate on WDW returning to the quality, as well as value it once offered.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm staring at a pile of Disney Parks 'Celebrate Everyday' napkins sitting on my kitchen table. << You mean the ones that look like they belong at a 3 year olds birthday party. By taking those napkins, is that on the same plain as reusing your resort mug trip, after trip, after trip, after trip....?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Or why in my 20s I was going to see 'kids movies' instead of gorefests. << Snow White tramatized you. I would hate to even imagine you trying to watch a slasher flick!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I'm having a hard time expressing this in words, but the closest I can come is this ... for me, the magic of WDW has largely been replaced with in-your-face hawking of the DISNEY MAGIC. << I really couldn't express it either, but I sure could feel it.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad <<For example, by building the same attractions on both coasts at the same time, you save design and construction costs while sharing marketing and other costs.>> Why would they want to build the same things in the parks? If the parks all become identical, what is the incentive to visit the different parks? I want to visit all the different parks because they are different. Same park in a different country has no allure.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I'm really missing Eisner. Period. And I never thought I'd say that. But at least he cared. true - he cared to the point of obsession eventually - but yes, he really cared for the product and the history.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <>> This always scares me. It's like when my company sends down a memo saying not to worry that everything is alright with the company. Heck, I wasn't worried till I got this memo. << Could I get an AMEN!!!!!< Oh Man how I agree-- nothing sets off panic in a corporation like the dreaded 'all is well' memo.....
Originally Posted By matthewdort I don't know how anyone can say they miss Eisner. His style of management was so myopic that he would've destroyed the company in an economy like this. Iger prefers the media divisions -- that's obvious -- but I think he has the long-term vision to see the entire company through and make sure the parks are still there when the recession ends.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<You mean the ones that look like they belong at a 3 year olds birthday party.>> Those would be the magical napkins ... now where's Nikki to castigate me for stealing them? <<By taking those napkins, is that on the same plain as reusing your resort mug trip, after trip, after trip, after trip....?>> Or worse ... like 'borrowing' a bar of Mickey soap from a Mousekeeping cart. ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Or worse ... like 'borrowing' a bar of Mickey soap from a Mousekeeping cart. << It's only stealing if you take the whole cart.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Or why in my 20s I was going to see 'kids movies' instead of gorefests. << <<Snow White tramatized you.>> Actually, it was Bambi (if we're talking films) .... Snow White did scare me as a child the first time I rode. <<I would hate to even imagine you trying to watch a slasher flick!>> I'm fine with them. They aren't nearly as scary as watching the news. BTW, I hear the Mexican drug cartels are staging attacks/crimes inside Texas and getting away with it ... can someone please wake me up and tell me the world really hasn't fallen apart and it's just some crazy liberal agenda lie to bring about evils like healthcare for everyone. ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Why would they want to build the same things in the parks? If the parks all become identical, what is the incentive to visit the different parks? I want to visit all the different parks because they are different. Same park in a different country has no allure.>> Well, their line of thinking is how many people even visit both US resorts ... and I don't disagree with that. But I also think cookie cutter, clone filled parks greatly diminish both the individual locations and the greater chain as a whole. Every resort doesn't need a copy of TSMM ... or ToT or Turtle Talk. Take the basic technology and use it with a different theme or story. Or make the same attraction, but change them up considerably (much like what was done with DLP). WalMarting the Disney Parks isn't magical and, contrary to the BS spewed by Rasulo and his minions, doesn't result in savings in the long term. People don't want a generic ONE DISNEY approach. And really the changes behind the scenes are not as big as people are touting. WDW has been in charge of so many aspects of DL for years (to Anaheim's detriment I might add) ... this is all packaging for Wall Street analysts. ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^Not really. Most of the attacks occur across the border from El Paso. I think the body count was right at 70 the last week. It's just a matter of time before it shifts over here though. People who believe in open borders, and amnesty for ILLEGAL ALIENS need to wake up.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I don't know how anyone can say they miss Eisner. His style of management was so myopic that he would've destroyed the company in an economy like this.>> I didn't say he should still be running the company. Just that he cared. Genuinely. I don't get that from Bob. But, unlike Michael, I've never spoken with Bob ... Michael's micro-managing was actually one of the reasons why he AND DISNEY were so successful from 1984-1994. Disney became way too big -- and Frank's untimely death certainly hurt greatly -- to keep doing so. And Michael, like most in the business, allowed his ego to run unchecked. I don't believe Iger is any different in that regard. <<Iger prefers the media divisions -- that's obvious -- but I think he has the long-term vision to see the entire company through and make sure the parks are still there when the recession ends.>> I don't see that vision. I must have not taken my daily dose of pixie dust. ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<^^^Not really. Most of the attacks occur across the border from El Paso. I think the body count was right at 70 the last week. It's just a matter of time before it shifts over here though. People who believe in open borders, and amnesty for ILLEGAL ALIENS need to wake up.>> Do you really have faith they can/will do that? I don't. ~Pass the Pixie Dust~
