Originally Posted By jonvn San Jose would cut out a lot of people from riding it. I say, San Mateo to LA. That would be the most convenient for me personally.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>San Jose would cut out a lot of people from riding it.<< True, but San Franciscans are required by law to hate LA and say terrible things about it. With a San Jose start, they could sneak down there without other San Francsicans knowing where they're going.
Originally Posted By jonvn OK, if it actually just went to Anaheim, I could deal with Fremont. Disneyland is the only reason we ever go to LA anyway.
Originally Posted By jonvn "San Franciscans are required by law to hate LA " I know. What is up with that? SF is a horrible mess, yet they have this superiority complex that is rather unjustified. True, the air is cleaner in SF, and the views are nicer, but the city itself is a disaster.
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Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan SF is a horrible mess, yet they have this superiority complex that is rather unjustified.<< It's strange. I actually like both cities. But to admit that to a San Franciscan is like admitting you have leprosy and just kissed their daughter. What's strange is, the venom doesn't realy go the other way. Folks in LA don't really think about San Francisco a whole lot. When they do, they think it's just a nice place to spend a weekend. Maybe some LA baseball fans have stronger feelings about SF, but other than that, the dislike is much more north to south directed. So odd.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Perhaps part of it is that when you're elsewhere in the US and people hear you're from California, everyone always assumes that you're from LA. It probably gets tiring to say "No, actually I'm from S.F." over and over again.
Originally Posted By Mr X **I know. What is up with that? SF is a horrible mess, yet they have this superiority complex that is rather unjustified.** It's the SMUG...didn't ya know? SF is the most polluted city in the world, in fact!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 SF was once the largest city in CA, and was sort of the unofficial capital of the entire west coast. When LA surpassed SF in size and importance, I don't think a lot of SF'cans took kindly to it, so they sort of took a "well, we might be smaller, but we're eminently superior to that uncouth place" attitude. It has been passed along, generation to generation. Like 2oony, I really like both places.
Originally Posted By Mr X **What's strange is, the venom doesn't realy go the other way. Folks in LA don't really think about San Francisco a whole lot. When they do, they think it's just a nice place to spend a weekend.** Big brother complex. I see it all the time coming from Boston. Bostonians think there's this big "rivalry" between the cities, and New Yorkers don't give it a second thought. Canada too...poor guys. They spend half their lives bitching about America, but we just like the beer and the skiing.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Folks in LA don't really think about San Francisco a whole lot." Yes, this is exactly right. And the funny thing is that many people who feel this way weren't even born into the area, or even the state. LA has problems. So does SF. They are different problems, but neither is a utopia.
Originally Posted By Mr X Really? Sterile? You and I obviously didn't go to the same places! Love it there...and the park and the bay are incredible, as is nearby Vancouver Island.
Originally Posted By jonvn I spent a few days there in september of 2001. There were American flags flying everywhere... Oh, I don't even want to think about this now, it's so infuriating what happened after that because of our idiot president... Anyway, it was an ok place. Just kind of a bit dull. I liked the marketplace there on whatever island that is, that was really enjoyable. It's clean, too. I wouldn't mind living there, actually.
Originally Posted By Mr X It's a lot less dull if you partake in some of the semi-nearly-almost legal recreational activities. And I'll leave it at that. I would LOVE to live there...very peaceful place. Plus you can conveniently cruise Alaska in the summertime!
Originally Posted By jonvn Speaking of Vancouver: <a href="http://www.canada.com/globaltv/national/story.html?id=d83cf5c8-437d-4586-8289-a763ee0b5738&k=58864" target="_blank">http://www.canada.com/globaltv /national/story.html?id=d83cf5c8-437d-4586-8289-a763ee0b5738&k=58864</a>
