Originally Posted By mrichmondj I don't believe the answer is either A or B. War is not heroic. It is sometimes necessary, but not heroic.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^^^^^^^^^ spoken like someone who really could be a war hero....when you listen to them speak...they rarely look at themselves as a hero...just did what they thought was right and necessary. ( unlike those who made sure the photo ops were captured )-
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Kerry went to VietNam. He also bailed on his men when he got enough paper scratch Purple Hearts then went on to attack his own country and be a hero to the Viet Cong. He also tried to get out of going to Viet Nam, but that's old news by now. So no, he is no hero for being a traitor to his counry. You didn't see the Swift Boat Vets against Bush did you? Well, you did see BOGUS documets put out be liberals regarding Bush and the National Guard. Finally, the guys who go to war are heros. They might not brag about it like Kerry likes to do even though he is a traitor and a liar, but the guys who put themselves on the line for our country are heros without a doubt.
Originally Posted By gadzuux You're not fit to hold kerry's boots - you've got a lotta crust to sit up there in oregon and demean what kerry did in vietnam - what kerry VOLUNTEERED to do. He was an officer - what are you?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Beau, I can't help but think that if Kerry were a Republican, and then some people came out and questioned his war record that you'd be attacking THEM till you were blue in the face. So predictible.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Gad --to be fair and balanced--What did you say about our commander in chief yesterday? He 's the President of the United States and you name called him everything in the book! Why can you be so nasty and not Beau? Different crust?
Originally Posted By cape cod joe To clarify--I think what you said yesterday was libelous and 1000 times more egregious than Beau as you can't compare a grunt on the ground to the commander in chief of our armed forces. I just bet you'll do a cm and try to spin your way out of this?
Originally Posted By RokNRollaCosta Beau, talk about bailing on his men, George W. completly bailed on the entire service, at least John Kerry went overseas and fought. You cannot call Kerry a traitor but deny Bush as being one too. And please, lets not get into the Swift Boat Veterans, they are no different than the forged documents you claimed in your rant.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> What did you say about our commander in chief yesterday? << I said this - >> A coddled scion draft-dodging alcoholic failed businessman with the moral compass of a career criminal. << I stand by it. It's all true. What beau said about kerry is not true. What's mor important is that my comments are relevant to current events - beau's still flailing away about the 2004 candidate and about vietnam.
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Originally Posted By Beaumandy Do we really want to get into why Kerry is such a total loser and he is about as far from a war hero as your going to get? I am ready to bring it on if you want because Kerry is the easiest guy to nail in politics anywhere. He is a flat out loser with zero charatcer and zero core convictions. He is also in the Viet Cong war museum today as a guy who helped the other side win. But you libs keep your Kerry stickers on your cars. Kerry tried to get out of going to Viet Nam. He tried to get a deferment. That didn't work so he got a few scratches that he parlayed into purple hearts and ran home to to trash not only his country, but his fellow soldiers who were still in harms way. He is a national disgrace and his fellow VietNam vets will tell you just this more times than not. Bill Clinton flat out dodged the draft but he is a hero on the left for some strange reason. We don't expect any consistency from the libs so no big surprise there. Gadzuux, your part of the anti military, anti war Frisco crowd. For you to talk about " brave military service " of John Kerry, or for you to take some disgruntled anti Rumsfeld generals and all of a sudden make them your heros is hillarious. Bush served in the national guard, he flew jets. He did everything by the book. I know you libs even tried to make up some bogus docs to support your little story about Bush and his " shamefull " Air Natioal Guard service, but that didn't work out so well for you now did it? None of this changes the fact that in 6 months the GOP is going to keep the house and the senate and deep down the howling left knows yet another loss is coming their way. My bet for the DL annual passports ( 2 ) is still on for anyone who thinks the libs can win.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< My bet for the DL annual passports ( 2 ) is still on for anyone who thinks the libs can win. >>> Are you referring to the Democratic Party?
Originally Posted By RokNRollaCosta Beau, have you ever been eleceted to the Senate, been a presidential candidate, or received a Purple Heart??? Just wondering how John Kerry is a total loser...
Originally Posted By cape cod joe How about Gad with denigrating George, one of our few elected 2 term Presidents as there have been less than a dozen in the whole history of our country! With your logic Rok (I do agree that my neighbor>we live in the same state) has accomplished much but he LOST against George so again GAD, what credentials do you have, to so vociferously and adamantly be so captious of our President?
Originally Posted By avromark You guys really should think about a multi-party government, You can have a Natural Law party who will through the power of everyone coast to coast "produce" a shield over the entire country that will save us from everything. You could also have the Marijjauna Party, can you guess what their entire platform is based on? You could have separatist parties, socialist parties and parties that rob the country yet your province/state keeps voting them into power. Of course our bad leader's don't harm the world some other G7 country leaders may, being one of the weaker G7's. Donkeys and Elephants both can have ugly euphanisms.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder When it comes to actual combat experience and performance, Bush couldn't hold Kerry's jock, and he must embarrass his father, a true war hero.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>one of our few elected 2 term Presidents<< Um...10 of the last 17 Presidents were elected for two terms. 2 Term - Theodore Roosevelt - 1901-1909 1 Term - William Taft - 1909-1913 2 Term - Woodrow Wilson - 1913-1921 Died in Office - Warren Harding - 1921*1923 1.5 Term - Calvin Coolidge - 1923-1929 (Completed Taft's term and was reelected) 1 Term - Herbert Hoover - 1929-1933 3 Term - Franklin Delano Roosevelt - 1933-1945 2 Term - Harry Truman - 1945-1953 2 Term - Dwight D. Eisenhower - 1953-1961 Died in Office - John F. Kennedy - 1961-1963 1.5 Term - Lyndon Johnson - 1963-1969 1.5 Term - Richard Nixon - 1969-1974 (Resigned in office) .5 Term - Gerald Ford - 1974-1977 1 Term - Jimmy Carter - 1977-1981 2 Term - Ronald Reagan - 1981-1989 1 Term - George H W Bush - 1989-1993 2 Term - Bill Clinton - 1993-2001 2 Term - George W. Bush, Jr. - 2001-? (who knows what he'll do...can you say martial law and dictator for life?)
