Originally Posted By Dabob2 < By the way, one of the movies I saw yesterday was BETTER THAN "WRECK-IT RALPH"> Is it better than Sita Sings the Blues, my favorite indie of the past I-don't-know-how-many years?
Originally Posted By mawnck BTW ... You are aware, are you not, that Nina is working on another feature? Here's a clip: <a href="http://vimeo.com/50531435" target="_blank">http://vimeo.com/50531435</a> Unfortunately she's decided to go all-in on the copyright civil disobedience thing, and has not even attempted to get permission for the rights to use the song and recording heard here (which, unlike the old Annette Hanshaw stuff, is indisputably copyrighted to the gills). So we may eventually see this movie, and we may not.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I had heard of this a while ago, but hadn't seen this clip. Thanks. As a songwriter, I can't support her on the copyright thing, but I love her work.
Originally Posted By mawnck Your Annie nominees for Best Picture ... AKA "The ones you'd expect plus The Rabbi's Cat". I would expect this to go to Wreck-It Ralph, but I could see a universe in which the Annie voters give it to Hotel Transylvania (causing much wailing and gnashing of teeth - see also Kung Fu Panda beating Wall-E in 2009): Brave Frankenweenie Hotel Transylvania ParaNorman The Pirates: Band of Misfits The Rabbi’s Cat Rise of The Guardians Wreck-It Ralph
Originally Posted By mawnck A rundown of all the films submitted to the Oscars' Best Animated Feature category (with a rather inaccurate description of "The Mystical Laws"): <a href="http://www.deadline.com/2012/11/oscars-indies-stake-a-claim-on-animated-feature-category/" target="_blank">http://www.deadline.com/2012/1...ategory/</a>
Originally Posted By schnebs <<I would expect this to go to Wreck-It Ralph, but I could see a universe in which the Annie voters give it to Hotel Transylvania (causing much wailing and gnashing of teeth - see also Kung Fu Panda beating Wall-E in 2009)>> Wasn't there some kind of scandal at the '09 Annies because of that? IIRC, DreamWorks chose to be a big sponsor of the Annies thyat year, and that called the results into question.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Wasn't there some kind of scandal at the '09 Annies because of that?<< Of sorts. Disney used it as an excuse to demand wholesale changes in the Annie rules, especially when it came to voter eligibility. ASIFA-Hollywood caved on most of them, but Disney nevertheless withdrew their support and participation in 2011, essentially taking their ball and going home. Apparently they're back, since they have plenty of nominees in categories that require submissions this year. You have to understand that ASIFA-H is not a mainstream organization. They are ANIMATION industry folks and fans, and thus they put more weight on visual artistry and action, which makes it perfectly plausible that KFP might sweep Wall-E. As for Dreamworks buying memberships for their employees, there's nothing illegal or unethical about that. It's a perk of employment ... membership in the animation society, since they're, you know, an animation studio. Dreamworks also hosts ASIFA screenings and events in their large studio screening room. The real question is why the much larger and richer Disney studio doesn't do the same things. As for Dreamworks employees voting for KFP, well of course they did. That was the first movie of theirs to receive nearly universal critical acclaim, and they were justly proud of it. And it's not like Dreamworks has swept the Annies on a regular basis, before or since. Usually it's Pixar. Sore losers, that's all it was - one of the 150 pound gorillas trying (and succeeding) in intimidating one of the lesser awards shows into slanting the rules in their favor.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Golden Globe nominations for best animated feature: "Rise of the Guardians" "Brave" "Frankenweenie" "Hotel Transylvania" "Wreck-It Ralph" A little surprised by Hotel Transylvania - didn't see it, but the general consensus (and review by someone I trust) was that it was perfectly harmless but perfectly forgettable - not even as good as Frankenweenie, which I did see and liked, but far from loved. Will the Oscars follow that form, or nominate at least one "wild card" (i.e. well-received indie)?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Golden Globe nominations for best animated feature:<< Very strange that the FOREIGN Press Association didn't go for at least one of the (foreign) G-Kids films. Of course, we don't know whether G-Kids even promoted them for the Golden Globes. >>Hotel Transylvania - didn't see it, but the general consensus (and review by someone I trust) was that it was perfectly harmless but perfectly forgettable<< The all-important Mawnckscars, influencing the Oscars since 1863, will be out soon, possibly as early as Saturday afternoon. You might be surprised at where Hotel Transylvania wound up there too. (Spoiler - While I can't deny that your friend has a point, I still thought it was the best of the three Halloween movies, and will be rambling on at great, tedious length as to why.) As for indies, well, you'll see.
Originally Posted By mawnck From Jerry Beck at cartoonbrew: >>My condolences to Laika, Blue Sky, Illumination, Aardman and our friends at GKids for not making the cut. Don’t take it personally – The Hollywood Foreign Press Association is a phoney-baloney group of journalists, comprised of a small group of people nobody has ever heard of. ... ...I’m going to go out on a limb to predict that Frankenweenie will win. It’s the Tim Burton film. Everyone knows Tim Burton – especially international journalists. It’s not about which film is better, it’s about the big names<< <a href="http://www.cartoonbrew.com/events/the-golden-globe-nominees-and-why-frankeweenie-will-probably-win-74728.html" target="_blank">http://www.cartoonbrew.com/eve...728.html</a> And someone in the comments pointed out that last year, the Golden Globe for Best Animated Feature went to ... The Adventures of Tin Tin.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Ouch! The HFPA is an odd beast - it is amazing that they consist of only 90 members and manage to garner so much public attention. I've never taken their nominations or awards particularly seriously - the fact they have a split categories between drama and comedy/musical seems strange especially as AMPAS doesn't like comedic Best Pictures! The Tony Award nominating committee is only 40 or so I think - although their voting membership is much higher - maybe 700 or so.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "the fact they have a split categories between drama and comedy/musical seems strange especially as AMPAS doesn't like comedic Best Pictures!" I always thought that was exactly why they do do it that way. To differentiate themselves and( ( the give a little love to comedies that the Oscars typically snub (except for supporting actor/actress categories-- the one where the GGs don't differentiate).
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, the Oscar noms are out. Very happy to see Pirates make the list, and Wreck-it Ralph deserved it. The others... would rather have seen a true indie of quality in there.
Originally Posted By mawnck Would rather have seen just about ANYTHING of quality in Frankenweenie's slot .....
Originally Posted By skinnerbox I think it's a race between Ralph and Pirates. And I honestly can't predict which one will win. Pirates is a fun quirky little gem and I feel it has a slight edge over Ralph. But having two nominations from Disney on the list might statistically give Ralph the edge. Unless -- and I hope I'm wrong -- that members are going to toss it to Burton on some kind of sympathy vote because of past works like NBC. Geez that would suck. Frankenweenie is a prime example of what happens when genius goes corporate and sells out. Let's ask the OP on his pick. Which film do you see winning, mawnck? Think Pirates has a chance?
Originally Posted By magic0214 Unfortuantely, all the Critic associations so far have given it to Frankenweenie, which is SUCH a wrong decision. Since I haven't seen Pirates, I am rooting for Wreck-It Ralph. On Feb. 24th, if Frankenweenie wins...I will be one mad mam-a jam-a.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 You must have missed the other thread, SB, in which mawnck says "I didn't say it, but I figured it would be assumed ... My pick for the Oscar is Wreck-It Ralph. Of the rest of the films they nominated, only The Pirates! is even in the ballpark ... and nobody saw it."
Originally Posted By leemac <<But having two nominations from Disney on the list might statistically give Ralph the edge.>> Or split the vote? Katz must be spitting feathers that DWA got shut out entirely - especially considering it was up against two pretty poor movies in Brave and Frankenweenie.
