Originally Posted By skinnerbox Being in favor of background checks without gun registration is stupid. You have to register your automobile and boat and airplane in order to operate them. You also must possess a valid operator's license in order to use them, including boats in most states. Why should guns be any different? All four man-made instruments are lethal in the hands of unskilled operators or individuals who do not possess adequate executive functioning to be safe. But unlike the cars, boats, and planes, guns serve only one purpose: to fire a lethal projectile at a designated target to destroy, injure, maim, or kill that target. For that simple distinction alone, guns should be registered. PERIOD.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder So undeniably what Donny is telling us is that without his gun, he's nothing.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Civilizations arose in spite of weapons, not because of them. Humans and their ancestors have been using weapons for well over a million years, but civilization is only 10,000 years old or so. Civilization arose with agriculture and with the need to stay in the same place to tend crops year after year. And converting the grains into beer is how they stabilized the grain for storage and transport. It was less labor intensive to make beer from the type of wheat that Egyptians used so it was cheaper to produce, and it was a regular food for the poor. Beer has a much more noble history than weapons.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance How on earth would you EVER begin to take guns away from diagnosed "mentally disturbed" individuals without registration in place to know who owns guns? Donny, why are you so black and white and statistical with alcohol but not guns? More people die from guns by accident/homicide than will ever die from protection, why does that not matter to you?
Originally Posted By Donny "More people die from guns by accident/homicide" I don't think that is true. most times a gun owner is forced to point his gun the threat goes away and no police are called.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Donny, why are you so black and white and statistical with alcohol but not guns?>> Because holstering a beer bottle instead of gun doesn't look as macho or threatening. It's Homer Simpson.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "I don't think that is true. most times a gun owner is forced to point his gun the threat goes away and no police are called." CALGON!!!!!!
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I don't think that is true.>> Because you're in denial. You're addicted to your guns to bolster your self-esteem and masculinity. Without your guns, you feel naked and unprotected and totally vulnerable to all the evils of the world. You don't like reading my posts because I continue to present facts and data which are counter to your little gun fetish fantasy world. Try doing some research and see what the actual statistics are before popping off like this. Very, very few gun owners ever have to use their weapons in a threatening manner against an aggressor, real or imaginary. But murders and suicides from guns is a very real, very growing problem in this country. Whether or not you choose to believe it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Every time there is the rare "I stopped an intruder with my gun" incident, whether shots are fired or not, the NRA trumpets it to the sky. They have people scanning local media and police blotters just trying to find such instances. And there just aren't that many. They try to make their members believe it's commonplace (and if Donny is an indication, they succeed.) But it's just not. Meanwhile, people killing people they know because they have guns in their houses, either accidentally or in incidents like the guy taking out his whole family, are depressingly common.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/justice/philadelphia-high-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1">http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/17/...pt=hp_t1</a> Up yours, gun freaks.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^^Good heavens, this is happening on a weekly basis now. And it seems that school lock downs are becoming the new fire drills. mobile.nytimes.com/2014/01/17/us/in-age-of-school-shootings-lockdown-drills-are-the-new-duck-and-cover.html
Originally Posted By Mr X ^~~~lovely image right there. <---cancels dream of having Little X study in America for a year someday.
Originally Posted By Donny If knives were only outlawed <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/police-murder-suspects-were-attempting-exorcism">http://news.msn.com/crime-just...exorcism</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 In that case, the more salient point is probably "if only religious fanaticism was outlawed." But keep trying that good old deflection.
Originally Posted By ecdc In 2011, Donny, around 1,700 people were murdered by knives in the United States. More than 10,000 were murdered by guns. Also, I wonder how someone would look at another person who walked down the street carrying a big butcher knife. Or if they walked around on neighborhood watch wielding a knife.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>If knives were only outlawed<< Too bad they didn't have a gun, huh. They would've gotten done so much faster. Keep trolling, knucklehead.
Originally Posted By ecdc I also don't recall hearing much about mass school stabbings. I'll keep saying it: At some point, it's not unreasonable to conclude that many gun owners see all the gun deaths in this country as collateral damage, a necessary evil so they can hang onto their precious guns. It truly is a fetish.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Donny's a flat out idiot. It's time to dump him. Just ignore the guy.
