Originally Posted By Donny SingleParkPassHolder, you can't help your self but respond with personal attacks.Kinda like when you ran for office and lost.
Originally Posted By ecdc Donny, maybe you stop with this asinine one-upmanship. "Hey, let me Google this and find other stuff that kills people!" See, the difference is, the rest of us are always open to ideas to reduce deaths. If there's something different we should be doing that would directly lead to decreased DUIs, I'm all ears. If there's something we can be doing to reduce deaths by knife stabbings, I'm all ears. What we do know is there's concrete steps we can take to significantly reduce the number of gun deaths in this country. But the NRA and many gun owners don't want to take those steps thanks to their obsessive love of guns and their unfounded paranoia. So our country continues to suffer because we're surrounded by not-too-bright people who think they need a gun, when in fact, they don't need one at all.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Donny, you seem to think that people are trying to outlaw guns. No one here is suggesting that. There is nothing that anyone is suggesting that would take away a person's ability to defend themselves. There's nothing that anyone is suggesting that would result in the widespread confiscation of guns.
Originally Posted By Donny There are things that I disagree with the NRA that I have mentioned in this thread.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf As others have stated, guns need to be regulated like cars. Gun owners need to be trained, pass a test, apply for a license and register their guns - as well as get liability insurance. Gun owners should have to present their license and proof insurance to purchase ammo. Insurance rates should be based on where the gun is stored (regulated storage facilities like they have in Switzerland would get the lowest rates). People will still have their "right" to own a gun, but since so many have proved irresponsible and negligent and have trampled on the most sacred right of so many, the government needs to step in and do what they can to prevent imbeciles from hurting others. And here is another example of irresponsible gun owners: <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/news/2014/01/13/tsa-guns-atlanta-dallas-houston-phoenix-denver-nashville/4456583/">http://www.usatoday.com/story/...4456583/</a> Of note: "TSA found 1,828 guns among travelers preparing to board planes in 2013, a 20% increase from the year before, according to an analysis of agency data by Northwestern University's Medill National Security Journalism Initiative." and "About 84% of the weapons found were loaded, and one in three had a bullet in the chamber ready to fire, according to the study. The most popular weapons found were .380-caliber and 9 mm handguns." Keep it up gun rights activists, you are making the case for gun control better than we could.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Focusing on DUI and vehicular fatalities is very narrow minded. Where's the outrage for screwing with one's smartphone while driving? Texting and emailing while driving is beyond stupid. Tens of thousands of innocent individuals have been killed, paralyzed, or seriously injured because impatient idiots couldn't wait until they were off the road. Why isn't Donny making a big issue about that? Why only focus on DUI? Most likely because of his religion. Hating on alcohol is easy when your religion forbids you from partaking. LDS hasn't banned smartphones yet, so it's an easier problem to ignore. Gun registration is something responsible gun owners welcome. Most gun owners in this country want background checks and the closing of the gun show loopholes. And in order to keep guns out of the hands of unbalanced individuals, gun registration would be necessary. That would be the only way to keep tabs on weapons and keep them from falling into the "wrong hands." Seems to me the only logical reason for why gun owners like Donny scream against registration is because it would either keep them from selling their guns to anyone who's willing to pay, as well as keep them from personally acquiring guns themselves if they didn't meet the requirements. Makes me think there's something in Donny's background that would prevent him from owning personal firearms if background checks and gun registration became mandatory. "Methinks he doth protest too much."
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Of note: "TSA found 1,828 guns among travelers preparing to board planes in 2013<< That number is simply stunning and staggering, as anyone with the IQ of a chimp knows that you can't take firearms with you on board an airliner.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Why isn't Donny making a big issue about that? Why only focus on DUI? Most likely because of his religion. Hating on alcohol is easy when your religion forbids you from partaking. LDS hasn't banned smartphones yet, so it's an easier problem to ignore.<< +1. A similar thought crossed my mind.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Had some solid laws been put into place ten years ago, it is a near certainty the rate of killings by insane individuals would have been dramatically reduced. As a gun owner who can look at the issue with an open, honest mind, I can't see it any other way. It is similar to the manner in which I came to reject religion. Facts and reason vs political and corporate hyperbole. That's why I am so sensitive about being grouped in with the crude people who base their opinions on passion rather than reality.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Personally, I like shooting guns when I'm drunk. Thanks Donny and the NRA for helping to keep my hobby possible! (Ummm... not really)
Originally Posted By Mr X Hey RT, now you can add archery and make your passtime a true trifecta! All without having to get out from behind the wheel (Yeeee-haw!)... <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://bbcicecream.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/GunLiquorStore.jpg">http://bbcicecream.com/blog/wp...tore.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Donny "Personally, I like shooting guns when I'm drunk." I would like to see that illegal. I think a lot of assumptions are made when it comes to what I think.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I think a lot of assumptions are made when it comes to what I think.<< Then think about the company you keep.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Donny, there are no assumptions about the fact that you clearly stated you do not want gun registration. You also have been deliberately vague about why. The only logical conclusion to be drawn from this is that gun registration would hamper your personal ability to possess, purchase, and/or sell them. Otherwise, I highly doubt you would give a rat's arse about it.
Originally Posted By mawnck Meanwhile, in Nevada … >>Jailers were keeping an 88-year-old man on a suicide watch after he was arrested for allegedly opening fire at a Carson City hospital and critically wounding his wife, authorities said. William Dresser was arrested Sunday after firing one shot with small-caliber semi-automatic handgun that struck his wife in the chest at Carson Tahoe Regional Medical Center, Carson City Sheriff Ken Furlong said. No other injuries were reported. The woman was a patient in a third-floor room when she was shot around 11:30 a.m.<< <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HOSPITAL_SHOOTING_NEVADA">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s...G_NEVADA</a>
Originally Posted By Donny CDC Fact sheet. There are approximately 88,000 deaths attributable to excessive alcohol use each year in the United States.1 This makes excessive alcohol use the 3r d leading lifestyle-related cause of death for the nation.2 Excessive alcohol use is responsible for 2.5 million years of potential life lost (YPLL) annually, or an average of about 30 years of potential life lost for each death.1 In 2006, there were more than 1.2 million emergency room visits and 2.7 million physician office visits due to excessive drinking.3 The economic costs of excessive alcohol consumption in 2006 were estimated at $223.5 billion.3 <a target="blank" rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/alcohol-use.htm">http://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fac...-use.htm</a>
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance You know, I was just thinking the same thing. I feel like screaming into a pillow.
