Originally Posted By ReadingMom This is just crazy. Where are the kids getting these ideas? Sounds like the parents needed to use some parental controls on the television.
Originally Posted By DAR ReadingMom you've got it completely wrong. I would say there's very little "parenting" going on in this case.
Originally Posted By disneyland1 EXACTLY. No parents are "parenting" these people. This is why I home school my kids. Too many crazy things out there. I am not willing to take THAT risk. There are already too many other risks I have to deal with too. I miss the olden days.... * SIGH*
Originally Posted By vbdad55 As the parent of a very young school teacher this scares the crap out of me. But I can tell you - rich area / poor area , urban/rural- it seems to make little difference - the parenting going on today is for the most part awful Everyone worried about me time - or wants to be kids best friend. Kids don't learn, it's the teachers fault - the schools fault - society's fault - TV's fault take your pick. Yes there are exceptions ( some of them on this board ) but being a member of a school board, and involvd in youth sports -- I can tell you many kids are on their own right now, little to no direction, and when they do get it, sometimes it's to demand what they want/ Had one 2nd grader tell my daughter they weren't going to do any damn assignent over the weekend, and if she didn't like it his dad would have her job. This is 2nd grade folks. And we wonder where the older nut jobs are coming from... there is a fundamental breakdown of the family going on ( and I don't mean just the prototype nuclear family so that it isnn't taken that way ). When I say family, I mean where a parent or parents give direction to kids on life, education, some rhtical means.... it just seems to be missing a lot these days
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Had one 2nd grader tell my daughter they weren't going to do any damn assignent over the weekend, and if she didn't like it his dad would have her job. > Ay yi yi! And the thing is, Daddy probably told him to say that. That doesn't sound like the kind of thing a 2nd grader would think of to say on his own.
Originally Posted By mele <<Had one 2nd grader tell my daughter they weren't going to do any damn assignent over the weekend, and if she didn't like it his dad would have her job.>> !
Originally Posted By mele I'm not surprised that kids are like this considering how popular rudeness seems to be in our culture. There are tv shows, radio shows, movies where people glorify mistreating people, revenge, being shocking and rude. There seems to be this "I'm not putting up with *your* crap" mentality which isn't necessarily the WORST part. The worst part is that along with that attitude, the very same people want everyone else to put up with THEIR crap. So, everyone behaves as outrageous as they want, but refuses to take it from anyone else. (The Golden Rule seems to have been completely forgotten.) I have a pretty dark sense of humor but I am continually surprised how mean our society is. Everyone is in our way, everyone annoys us, everyone ELSE is the problem, not us. I'm guilty of these things, too. I think sometimes we're simply preoccupied and don't know what we're doing, but more and more, it simply looks like people don't give a rat's behind about anyone else. Our priorities in this country are getting more screwed up everyday. Sad.
Originally Posted By ReadingMom <<ReadingMom you've got it completely wrong. I would say there's very little "parenting" going on in this case.>> You're absolutely right. I was just trying to be delicate about it. : )
Originally Posted By ReadingMom <Had one 2nd grader tell my daughter they weren't going to do any damn assignent over the weekend, and if she didn't like it his dad would have her job. > My SIL is a teacher in our school district and I am always amazed at what some kids say. She teaches fifth grade and some of the stories that I hear about parents just shock me. One of the problems in school is that kids are just not listening to the teacher. I used to work in my kids' classrooms when they were in elementary school and would constantly witness this. Some kids just do not respect the authority of the teacher and the teacher's hands are sometimes tied as to how to handle the situation without getting themselves in trouble. One time I just spoke up in the classroom and said "Excuse me...your teacher is talking to you. Please be quiet." The kids were shocked to say the least, but since I worked on the playground during lunch recess they were probably afraid that I would give them a "stop sign" or a "conduct slip" if they didn't be quiet. It worked for that one day. In high school, with the exception of one math class that my daughter was in, the teachers automatically send any troublemakers out of the classroom to the RC (responsibility center.) There is a teacher there that deals with the situation so that the class can go on.
