Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "We always get a chuckle, when, on the 'Snow White' ride at Disneyland, the wicked queen falls to her death and then -- boom! -- you're outside the show building 'and they lived happily ever after.'" I know, and the way it's just painted on the wall "And they lived happily ever after" with nothing else, it's like, "Really? It's over!?"
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Those dark rides still work well. The artistry with the use of the irredescent paint and black lights - is fantastic.<< They really are great. Some of the effects are relatively simple, but work so well. Just the oncoming train effect in Mr. Toad -- bumpy railroad ties, sounds, and that bright headlamp -- combine with the guest's imagination to make that moment very real. Having been on the ride countless times, I still brace myself for impact a little bit each time!
Originally Posted By Daannzzz >>Those dark rides still work well. The artistry with the use of the irredescent paint and black lights - is fantastic.<< This is one of my issues with some of the new attractions. This mine train could have been so much more if the had raised the height a bit (or dug a little deeper but it is Florida) and had the trains go through numerous scenes before heading up the first lift hill. This would add more break zones and more capacity and been much more impressive. The same could have been done on Expedition Everest. The whole meandering through a garden at the beginning and the portion through the helix outside could have been indoors with some good scenes.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The area under the Mine Train actually has some extra clearance before hitting water. Since the rest of Fantasyland was built on top of the Utilidor, there was a lot of extra space under the FL expansion. Most of it was filled in with dirt, but the space below the Mine Train was actually used for the vehicle maintenance/storage shop for the ride. Presumably if the ride has been planned from the beginning, the shop could have been located elsewhere (under Enchanted Tales, perhaps), freeing up that space for a longer ride And I agree with you about the outdoor portions of Everest. I've never really understood what they were supposed to represent in terms of the mountain. And the random outdoor helix in the middle of the ride is especially confusing, since everything else is tied to the mountain at that point. In a way Everest always disappoints me, not because it's a bad ride (it's fine), but because it had so much potential that it just doesn't deliver
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Yeah, Ferret, duckling--Peter Pan at WDW needs an update badly. The last time they had one was probably 10 years ago and the only thing they did was something with a few extra fiber optic thingies at the end. It was disappointing to have a ride down for as long as it was at the time, only to have a few fiber optics added at the end. Hopefully they'll do something really fantastic with it in the near future.