Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>Iger went on record late last year saying that any new SW development for the parks had been slowed down to reevaluate the inclusion of the plot line of the next set of films. With that in mind I'm almost thinking that any major announcement will coincide with The Force Awakens marketing this fall or after its release.<< Yes, but the people at MiceChat claim that Toontown will be shut down for the new Star Wars land sometime in 2016. If what you're saying is true and they will hold off on any announcements until the release of the new movie, wouldn't that affect MiceChat's claims?
Originally Posted By doombuggy "but the people at MiceChat claim" Take that with a very large grain of salt. They have been right on some things but this? eeehhhhhh I'll believe it when it's "officially" announced. Take HBG returning, that rumor has been going on since HMH started. I'm glad to hear this will be going on even around the holidays. That's about the time we'll be moving down there and won't miss it yyyeeeaaahhhh!
Originally Posted By perlster I like turtles, especially when LiceRat says they must be relocated to make room for a mythical Star Wars Land.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "but the people at MiceChat claim" >>Take that with a very large grain of salt. They have been right on some things but this? eeehhhhhh I'll believe it when it's "officially" announced. Take HBG returning, that rumor has been going on since HMH started.<< Isn't it funny that we have to keep reminding posters here about this over and over? Why do MiceAge's claims carry more weight than the CEO of the company? Remember when Iger stated that the Subs were returning after their rehab last year, and people wondered if he was being truthful because MiceAge asserted that the Subs's closure was a cost savings measure while WDI developed plans for an Ewok Village to replace it?
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>Why do MiceAge's claims carry more weight than the CEO of the company?<< Probably because MiceAge claims that they have connections with Imagineering, who are the ones creating these plans. They also claim that Iger has been in the parks very little. >>Take HBG returning, that rumor has been going on since HMH started.<< Well, in this case, there is that "temporary" wall they put in. They claim that the Hatbox Ghost may or may not be finally making his debut.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>Why do MiceAge's claims carry more weight than the CEO of the company?<< "Probably because MiceAge claims that they have connections with Imagineering, who are the ones creating these plans. They also claim that Iger has been in the parks very little." That doesn't explain why you would give more weight to a MiceAge rumor over direct public comment from the CEO of the company.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Probably because MiceAge claims that they have connections with Imagineering,> Yeah... but time to break out that grain of salt again. Miceage started with a decidedly mixed track record when it came to predictions and pronouncements; there was a period (around the end of Al's tenure) where their hit-to-miss percentage did go up (though certainly not 100%; and now it's gone back down again. It could be (and this is itself a rumor) that Tony Baxter was Al's big leaker, and now with neither one in his former position, it's more erratic again. Even if one has an "in" in imagineering (or thinks one does), the rumor spread can be wrong - intentionally or unintentionally - sometimes plans DO get changed at the last minute (and sometimes that's used as a convenient excuse)... As Hans says, it's amazing that the reminder remains necessary, but ALL of these sites deal in rumors, everything is subject to change, and we should take everything reported with a grain or 10 of salt. I just wish MiceAge would be consistent about reporting rumors as rumors and not so quick to say something is "definite" (as in the subs closing). <They claim that the Hatbox Ghost may or may not be finally making his debut.> Yeah, and when they do that, it's fine. They report something that MIGHT happen, which can be fun to think about and discuss, and cover their butts at the same time in case it doesn't. It may sound mealy-mouthed ("this may or may not be happening"), but that's the nature of the beast - all these things are tentative till they get the final go-ahead.
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>That doesn't explain why you would give more weight to a MiceAge rumor over direct public comment from the CEO of the company.<< I wouldn't give so much credence to MiceAge over the credence of the company CEO, except that here leemac here apparently also has connections in the company.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I give leemac a lot of credibility, but be aware: if we're talking about Star Wars going into Toontown (and adjacent areas), he has NOT said it's a done deal. Only that's it has been discussed as a possible place to put it.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Probably because MiceAge claims that they have connections with Imagineering, who are the ones creating these plans. They also claim that Iger has been in the parks very little." Iger may not have been in the parks much, but something tells me he may have a few more connections to Imagineering than MiceAge does.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "...but something tells me he may have a few more connections to Imagineering than MiceAge does." There you go starting more rumors. I wonder if your inside voice telling you things about Iger is the same one talking to the editors at MiceAge.
Originally Posted By LP Watcher "As Hans says, it's amazing that the reminder remains necessary, but ALL of these sites deal in rumors, everything is subject to change, and we should take everything reported with a grain or 10 of salt. I just wish MiceAge would be consistent about reporting rumors as rumors and not so quick to say something is "definite" (as in the subs closing)." Yes, all sites deal in rumors, but MiceChat seems to always have the upper hand (accurate or not). They obviously have more inside connections than LaughingPlace or people here wouldn't be constantly referring to MiceChat posts. LP posters need to develop their own reliable sources so that THEY can be the go-to people for accurate information.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Yes, all sites deal in rumors, but MiceChat seems to always have the upper hand (accurate or not).> No, not really. I've seen other sites scoop them and/or come out with the real deal while MiceAge was insisting on something that didn't happen. <They obviously have more inside connections than LaughingPlace or people here wouldn't be constantly referring to MiceChat posts.> LP isn't really in the rumor business. So if you want to talk about rumors here, you refer to MiceAge or Screamscape or some other site (or, less helpfully, "I heard that...") LP tends to wait till things are announced. Apple and orange.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt None of the fan sites should be considered legitimate sources for unpublished news. It's fun to speculate and wonder what's going on with the future of the parks, but in my view that's where it should stop. Al's columns frequently reflected his personal vendetta against Disney's operations rather than being a source for legitimate information, but to his credit his predictions were sometimes very accurate. Since his departure the rhetoric has been toned down but they've been less successful with their predictions. If they want Disney fans to take them seriously maybe they should stop supporting rumors that the CEO claims are false. Of course if they didn't continue to stir up controversy traffic to their site would slow down considerably...
Originally Posted By doombuggy "there is that "temporary" wall they put in" When they were putting in the black widow bride they had sheets over the grooms pictures, The net was abuzz that the biggest one was HBG.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Of course if they didn't continue to stir up controversy traffic to their site would slow down considerably... " And then who would they beg for money from?
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "I wonder if your inside voice telling you things about Iger" I'm not sure the things her inside voice is telling her about Iger are appropriate for a family forum.
Originally Posted By Disneylandfan85 >>I give leemac a lot of credibility, but be aware: if we're talking about Star Wars going into Toontown (and adjacent areas), he has NOT said it's a done deal. Only that's it has been discussed as a possible place to put it.<< Well, this is just me, but whether this is a done deal or just a possibility, this rumor really cuts me to the quick because I love Toontown. Like I said, though, this is just me.
